4-B9G (REV. . 1-20*73) Transfer-Gall 3421 STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 □ TA TE S GO DA TE : ATO FROM /•ci n SUBJE LYIN G DISCS ortl I M r. Tolson M r. E . A . Tam m 1947 M r. Res.: I M r. Tracy I M r. E c ;n M r. E . • UN ting forth the results of inquiries m ade by his office concerning the reported ghtings of flying discs entitled " HM K»em b E nclosures - 3 3) Director, FBI - A ttention! A ssistant Director D. M . LA DD SA C San Francisco ce M emorandum 'RN M E N T ference is m ade to m y letter to the Bureau dated July 28, 1947 entitled as above forw arding a copy of a report furnished to m e by Lieutenant Colonel DON A LD SPRIN GE R, A -2 Fourth A ir Force Ham ilton Field California set A s of further interest to the Bureau in this regard, the m itted herew ith photostatic copies of three letters dated A ugust 4, 1947 ^ Investigation of Flying Discs furnished to m e by M ajor WILLIA M R GRA HA M , Deputy A C of S, A -2, A rm y A ir Forces, Ham ilton Field California, w ho acting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonel SPRIN GE R, enclosing copies of reports of additional reported sightings of flying discs by persons in Oregon and A rizona, together w ith the results of their investigations in that regard It is noted that these investigations w ere conducted prior to the tim e Bureau instructions w ere issued that our ow n Bureau w ould conduct inquiries into the reported sightings of flying discs Copies of these reports are being forw arded to Phoenix Offices for the com pletion of their files in connection w ith this subject cc Portland (w ith enclosures Phoenix (w ith enclosures - 3) 37 AUG Wi94 STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO ' : DIRE CTOR, FBI om : SA C, N E WA RK DA TE : A ugust 13, 1947 SUBJE CT: FLYIN G DISC RE PORTE D A T HA CKE N SA CK, N W JE RSE Y A UGUST 3, 1947 - M ISCE LLA N E OUS Reference is m ade to tne to tne Bureau dated A ugust 4, 1947 been reported to been seen at teletype from the N ew ark Division stating tnat a "Flying Disc" had Hackens; last by one CHA RLE SN cA SE LIA , JR. and '.VILLI , N ew Jersey on A ugust 3 TRUE X. CHA RLE S CA SE lLA , JR., 287 E uclid A venue, Hackensack, upon interview by Special A gent A RTHUR F. WILLIA M S of this Division, stated that on A ugust 3 he had been standing w ith WILLIA M TRUE X, a soldier stationed at Fort Dix, observing a "ham " radio rig atop a tw o-story house on Sim ons A venue, Hackensack. It w as approxim ately 7:45 p.m ., and they w ere in this vicinity for the purpose of m eeting TRUE X’s girlfriend, one JOYCE M e FA itLA N D. lost aw ay east that TRUE X com m ented to CA SE LIA that a child had apparently its balloon. CA SE LLA looked and about a block or a naif block noticed a round, black object m oving from south to north and of the stop w nere he and TRUE X w ere standing. CA SE LLA noticed it w as m oving too fast to be an ordinary balloon not discern w nether it w as globular in form or a disc but he could He said it w as about thirty to forty inches in diam eter m oving north in a hori­ zontal plane about tw o hundred yards above the top of tne nil! at Sum m it A venue and Sim ons A venue. In proceeded at a steady rate, em itted no rays, and w as m oving fast enougn to require tnem to turn tneir heads steadily in order to follow it. TRUE X’s girlfriend cam e out about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it. They pointed it out to her, and she said that it looked like a bird on tne horizon so sm all. It faded out of sight shortly thereafter. CA SE LLA said that a line draw n along its apparent course of flight w ould go from the vicinity of Bendix, N ew Jersey to a point w est of Westw ood, N ew Jersey. CA SE LLA also said also noticed it and pointea this m an seem ed excited but tnat a m an on tne porch across tne street it out to tne w om en. CA SE LIA said that did nothing about it. CA SE LLA said thatne w as positive it w as no optical illusion He w as not facing into tne sun and saw tne object clearly. He also said tnat ne w ould have thought notning of it except for tne speed at w hicn it w as traveling. A FWxE M C 62- COPIE S DE S^E D t;. E XJE D 1947 27 0 N 0V18 1bb4 Letter to Bureau A ugust 13, 1947 M iss JOYCE M e FA RLA N D, 476 Sim ons A venue, upon interview by Special A gent WILLIA M S, stated that the event in question occurred at about 7:30 on tne evening of Sunday, A ugust 3. She said that sne w as in the house w hen CA SE LLA or TRUE X called to her. She w ent out im m ediately, and they pointed out the object in question. Sne saw it just before it disappeared over tne horizon, but she declared that it w as in view from that tim e for approxim ately one m inute. She said it w as round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving. She said that she did not recall m aking any com m ent that it m ight nave been a bird and herself had no idea of w nat it could be. In view of tne distance from w hich she noticed it, she said tnat it could not nave been m ore than six inches in diam eter but w ould have been m ucn larger ii she had been near to it. M iss M e FA KLA N D said that sne had never seen anything like it before. She said that across tne street the BOOTHS, m other and daughter, w ere tne only people sitting on tne poren and she, herself, did not notice anyone pointing tow ard tne object in question. The only other person around, to her know ledge, w as GLORIA TRUE X, sister of WILLIA M TRUE X, w no rem ained in tne house and did not see the object at all. M rs. WIN FIE LD S. BOOTH, 459 Sim ons A venue, stated that she w as on the porch on tne evening in question w ith her m other but did not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any m an been present tnere to point out the object in question. The follow ing inform ation w as received from TRUE X through interview by Special A gent T. HOWA RD WA LDRON : Private WILLIA M A . TRUE X, RA 12282003, Com pany G, 2nd Bat­ talion, 47tn Infantry Regim ent, 9th Division, Fort Dix, N ew Jersey, advised he w as born A pril 12, 1930 at Jersey City, N ew Jersey and com pleted eight and one naif years of school. He enlisted in tne United States A m y on M ay 29, 1947 . His m other is M rs. GRA CE FIE LDS of 88 Wales A venue, River E dge, Bergen County, N ew Jersey. TRUE X stated that on Sunday, A ugust 3, 1947 , at 8:00 p.m ., he w as standing outside tne hom e of his girlfriend, M iss JOYCE M e FA KLA N D, 47 8 Sim ons A venue, Hackensack, N ew Jersey, accom panied by CHA RLE S CA SE LLA of 287 E uclid A venue, Hackensack, N ew Jersey, w ho is his sister's fiance. He said tnat he and CA SE LLA w ere looking at the radio antenna on a hom e near the 47 8 Sim ons A venue address w nen they noticed an object -2 - Letter to Bureau A ugust 13, 1947 about tw o to three feet in diam eter m oving rapidly about tw o hundred yards off tne ground. TRUE X said he thought at first it w as a child's balloon, but w hen he noticed there w as no w ind and tne object had no strings to it, ne decided it w as som ething else. He stated tne object w as m oving in a steady, straight path, going nortn, and he said there w as no exhaust or indication of any m otive pow er tor the object. TRUE X said they observed tne object for fifteen or tw enty seconds. He could not give a description or tne object's color or tne m aterial it w as com posed of but said it looked m ore like a large, flat child's cup tnan anything else he could tnink of, as the object w as oval on the top and cam e to a point on tne bottom side. TRUE X said tnat CA SE LLA , statea "M aybe it’s a flying saucer". He said he nad never seen any­ thing m ove through the air quite like this object, and he nad no idea w here it cam e from . TRUE X statea that neither ne nor CA SE LLA had had anything to drink, and there w as sufficient light for tnem to observe tne object very clearly. The "Flying Disc" w as reported by CA SE LLA to Sergeant JA M E S PE RON E of tne Hackensack Police Departm ent. Sergeant PE RON E advised tne w riter tnat his Departm ent had taken no further action nor had they received reports of the object in question from any other source. It m ay be noted that no other Police Departm ent in tne vicinity has brought to tne attention of this Division any inform ation regarding this m atter. -3 - FBI DE TROIT E CTOR, FBI UN SUBS, RA YM ON D DISC, M ISC n»mi n w w w nwwieMw M.S. OPMITMM *»*«’<• cummin ttWIII TELETYPE 8-5-47 URGE N T E DWA Rp/LA N D^, M RS 5-08 PM E ST M r. Goraea J OH M l M l M l M r. 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N E ITHE R PA RTY A DM ITS STORY IS A PRA N K, BUT LA N E HA S M E N TION E D FLYIN G DISCS A N D ROCKE TS ON IN TE RVIE W LA N E WA S RE LUCTA N T TO DISCUSS M A TTE R A N D N E ITHE R HE N OR HIS WIFE A RE A BLE TO LOCA TE THE E XA CT LOCA TION WHE RE M A TE RIA L WA S FOUN D. A RM Y A IR FORCE S IN TE LLIGE N CE A T SE LFRIDGE FIE LD, M ICHIGA N , HA VE BE E N A DVISE D. SUTE L IF BURE A U DE SIRE S M A TE RIA L FORWA RDE D TO FBI ------------------ ------------------————- LA BORA TORY FOR E XA M IN A TION . O-CON N OR CORRE CTION LIN E ON E WORD FOUR SHOULD RA XXX RE A D - LA N E E N D 6-16 PM OK FBI WA SH DC WJR Called Laboratory Aug § \^D£PZ ^Huht 5 ^PM ’<17 ‘' !^TlC. ‘‘“"'I O N . a3'U333H >.i^3 A SV' ,.^V J obm^ STAND ARD FORM NO. 04 Office M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t DATE: August 8, 19^7 from : J. p. Coyne ^rfV SUBJEC T: UNKNOWN SUBJECTS? Raymond Edvard Lane, j Mrs. LaurarLane - Informants; C ELTING DISC There la attached a memorandum information received by the Detroit Office from Raymond Edvard Lane and Mrs. Laura Lane relative to "flying discs." RECOMMENDATION: It is recomended that this material be personally delivered by the Liaison Section to the appropriate contact in the War Department. 33iisnp ^o wan ' 18 J Z K WV«6 || Nom as NOSM T 03AI3398 A ugust 8, 1947 FLIIN G DISCS Inform ation w as received from the Dow Chem ical Com pany, Jfl.cQ.and, M ichigan, that on July 10, 1947, one Haym ond E dw ard Lane, an em ployee of Dow Chem ical Com pany since about 1922, brought som e m aterial to their Physics laboratory. He stated that about 5115 p.m ., July 9, he and his w ife, Laura, w ere w alking in a field w hen they heard a puff noise about one hundred feet aw ay. They turned and saw a ball of w hite about the size of a bushel basket burning approxim ately a foot off of the ground. The fire died out im m ediately and later Lane scooped up a three inch area of fused sand into a can for exam ination at their laboratory. Upon interview by FBI A gents, Raym ond told substantially the sam e story, but M rs. Lane w as reluctant to talk and ver;’ indefinite about w hat happened. There w ere m arked discrepancies in their stories. Dow authorities considered the story fantastic but have exam ined the m aterial and state contents ares ordinary sand, not radio active, but giving off am m onia gasj a sm all silver nugget alm ost pure except for sand m ixed in it, not radio active} m elted or fused sand w hich gives off am m onia odor and little droplets of silver m elted in sand and som e grayish color m aterial w hich is radio active. The level of radio activity in this m aterial is extrem ely low . A n em ployee of Dow , form erly em ployed by the Governm ent at Los A lam os Project, stated the fused sand has som e characteristics of Los A lam os sand but he does not believe it is the sam e. Raym ond Lane is know n to have in his possession a sm all quantity of lum inous paint, radio active, to be an am ateur photographer and to have a lim ited know ledge of chem istry and pjysics. He is described as very peculiar, surly, antagonistic to plant protection officers and interested in photography and electricity. Lane is w hite, w as bom M ay 7, 1902, at Freesoil, M ichigan. He is 5’ 92", w eighs 145 pounds, has dark brow n hair, partly bald, served in the U.S. A rny from 1918 to 1923. He w as arrested for burglary in M idland County M ichigan, in 1924, for w hich he served a sixty day sentence. N either Raym ond Lane nor his w ife w ill adm it their story is a prank. How ever, neither are able to point out the exact location of this incident. The A m y A irforce Intelligence at Pelf ridge Field, dlohigan, has been ■Bfittsed and the m aterial has been turned over to them . FROM C GO COMMU NICATIONS SECTION 8-8-47 800 PM "URGENT” M r. M isj FLYING DISC SIGH TED BY M RS. ROBERT-LITTLE. SEC URITY M ATER C H IC AGO H ERALD AM ERIC AN TODAY REPORTED TH AT LITTLE OF SIX TH REE TWO SEVEN H ARPER AVENUE C H IC AGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC TH REE TH IRTY AM TODAY SAILING ABOVE LAK E M IC H IGAN OFF JAC K SON PARK BEAC H . LITTLE UNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY. FATH ER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER, SIX TH REE TWO SEVEN H ARPER AVENUE, ADVISED LITTLE SIGH TED DISC OVER A M ONTH AGO AND SH E IS EIGH TEEN YEARS OF AGE. NO FURTH ER INQUIRY . C ONTEM PLATED. REC ORD#* / x / M C SWAIN INDEXED END AC K fUM M WM A U OF IlM ITiaA TION U. 8. OCPM TM E N T OF lUSTltt ' ' •’ ■ '' >4 fS» »' REC EIVED ?5M W- R>.- ^,'3 ta ft . 9- 2® PM ’fl ;wr.’ivw:v" '^ ^, ‘W8rw //a, °^I333i/ ’AND ARD FORM NO. 64 TO UM • UN ITE D S OVE RN M E N T FROM D. M . LA DD SUBJE CT:' FLUN G SA UCE RS DA TE : 7 /21/47 IT. Telson Lt. M r. M r. it. M r. JZr Ladd________J N ichols______1 Rosen__________ Tracy__________ M ohr___________ Colonel Carl Golbranson of the Intelligence Division of thenar Departm ent advised Special A gent S. W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section that the A ar Departm ent has received a telegram as follow s: dated N ew York, N ew York, July 5 Lt. Hendon Lt. M um ford____ M r. Jones_______ M r. Quinn Tam s. Tele. Room ___' j M r. N ease_______ M iss' Beahm _____ M iss Gandy_____ "FOR FUR HE R DE TA ILS CON CE RN IN G FLYIN G CON TA CT OF M R. RICHA RD F.f SHA VE R LILY IM PORTA N T IN FORM A TION CON CE RN IN G THE IR ORIGIN ." DISKS SUGGE ST IM M E DIA TE LA KE ILLIN OIS A HO M A Y HA VE Colonel Golbranson furnished M r. Reynolds w ith a copy of entitled "Report on Flying Saucers,*1 dated July 7 , 1947 , addressed General, 32d A A F Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D. C., from Jr., a copy of w hich is attached to this m em orandum . Ihe attached the m em orandum to Com m anding John_JDy^chjn^ler, m em orandum sets forth inform ation and statistics regarding tw o reportings of incidents of flying disks. There is also attached hereto a m ap of the Illinois River area w hich w as furnished to M r. Reynolds by Colonel Golbranson. Colonel Golbranson stated that according to this m ap the incidents reported in the attached m em orandum are in the general vicinity of Lily Lake, w hich w as given as the address of M r. Richard F. Shaver in the anonym ous telegram received by the War Departm ent. Colonel Golbranson advised that in view of the fact that the observation of the flying saucers w as m ade on July 7th and the date of the unsigned telegram is^ July 5th, together w ith the proxim ity of Lily Lake to the points w here the objects w ere observed, he desired the Bureau conduct sane investigation of Shaver to determ ine w hether or not he has any inform ation pertaining to the origin of the t flying saucers. M r. Reynolds advised Colonel Golbranson that his request w ould be m ade know n to you and the results of any investigation w ould be brought to his attention. RE COM M E N DA TION : S®:aJB It is recom m ended that the field be directed to m ake inquiries regarding Shaver and, if deem ed advisable, interview him regarding any inform ation that he has relative to flying disks. The results of any investigation should be forw arded to the Liaison Section,for delivery to the Intelligence Division of the War Depart­ m ent A ttachm ents V \ ^S9®^^< $ Director. FBI FLYING DISC S RGB :m ae The War Departm ent has furnished this Bureau w ith the following telegram dated July 5 at N ew York, N ew York: IN G THE IR ORIGIN ." J M r. Tolson M r. E . A . Tam a M r. Clegg M r. Olavin M r. Ladd M r. N ichols M r. Rosen M r. Tracy m i. E gan M r. Gurnea M r. Haruo M r. Vohr M r. N M Se M iss Gandy 32d A A F two discs SA C. Chicago A ugust 3, 1947 "FOR FURTHE R DE TA ILS CON CE RN IN G FLYIN G DISKS SUGGE ST IM M E DIA TE CON TA CT OF M H. RICHA RD F. SHA VE R LILY LA KE ILLIN OIS WHO SA Y HA VE IM PORTA N T IN FORM A TION CON CE RN ­ The War Departm ent has furnished a m em orandum entitled "Report on Flying Saucers" dated July 7 , 1947 , addressed to Com m anding General Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D. C from John D. Schindler, Jr copies of w hich are attached The War Departm ent has stated that the incidents referred to in the attached m em orandum are in the general vicinity of lily Lake w hich w as given as the address of Richard F. Shaver in the above telegram It is, therefore, desired that the Chicago Field Division conduct appropriate inquiries regarding Shaver, and in the event such inquiries do not reveal inform ation indicating that he should not be interview ed, he should be interrogated for ary inform ation he m ight have relative to flying It is desired that this m atter be handled as soon as possible and the Bureau prom ptly advised Bi closured M r. Pennington M r. Quinn Tam m Tele. Room STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 V Offi/ ^Aemorannum • UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO : FBI DA TE : 16 July 47 FROM : TOGS, US BRA N CH SUBJE CT: RICHA RD F. SHA VE R 1. A ttached hereto: a. Copy of unsigned telegram received by HQ. A A F 9 July 1947,in w hich it is indicated that Richard F/^hTyer* Lilly Lake, Illinois m ay have in­ form ation concerning the origin of the^flying saucers11. b. Copy of a report on flying saucers w hich w ere observed by four w itnesses w hile in flight in tw o airplanes over southern Wisconsin. c. M ap w ith indications as to proxim ity of the locations w here the flying saucers w ere reported to have been seen in relation to Lily Lake,Ill. that the tim e 2. In view of the fact/the observation of the flying saucers w as m ade corresponds closely w ith the date of the unsigned telegram , and considering the proxim ity of Lily Lake to the points w here the objects w ere observed, it is requested that M r Shave^be investigated to determ ine w hether or not he has inform ation pertaining to the origin of Flying Saucers. 1-1J :C0 l^^^l N L PD N E WYORK N Y JUL 5 M A JOR PA U^^YN OR A A F HOTS WA SHDC FOR FURTHE R DE TA ILS CON CE RN IN G FLYIN G DISKS SUGGE ST IM M E DIA TE CON TA CT OF M R. RICHA RD F SHA VE R LILY LA KE ILLIN OIS WHO M A Y HA VE IM PORTA N T IN FORM A TION CCN CE RN IN G THE IR ORIGIN UN SIGN E D 651P. 7 July 19U7 SUBJECT: Beport on flying Saucers. TO: Cemraanding General 33d AAF Base Unit Bolling yield. Washington, B. 0« 1. Following at* statistics regarding reports "by four witnesses while in flight in two airplanes. 2. Weather CATU* Visibility exceptionally good* Scat­ tered altocumulus 6000 feet* 3* First report:time 11U$ hours OST* Alt. of observers 800 feet above the ground* Altitude of saucer 1)000 felt MSI* Observed*period - First slated over Koshkonong, Wisconsin* Flight was observed fron town of Koshkonong to Elkhorn, Wisconsin* This flight covered twenty-five (25) Biles in fifteen (15) seconds* which is a speed of six thousand (oOOO) Biles per hour* U* Second reportl Time lUjO hours GST. Altitude of observers thirty-five hundred feet (3500) MSB* Altitude of saucer twenty-five hundred feet (2500)* Observation period* Observers at Bast Troy* Wisconsin* flight observed fron Slagle, Wisconsin to Muskego, Wisconsin* This flight covered twenty-two (22) miles in twenty (20 seconds* which is a speed of three thousand nine hudred sixty (3960) Biles per hour* 5* Flight maneuvers: First observation-saucer descended vertically edgewise throng altocumulus clouds, stopped at four thousand (UOOO) feet and assumed horizontal position and proceeded in horizontal flight from a horizontal position for fifteen (15) seconds covering twenty- five (25) miles and again stopped and disappeared* S econd observation: Observed in horizontal flight in a horizontal attitude for a period of twenty (20) seconds covering twenty-two (22) miles. By the time the pilot had removed his camera from the glove compartment of his plane, the saucer disappeared and again reappeared approximately ten (10) miles farther along its course after six (0) seconds making its final dis­ appearance* 6* The first two observers were an Instructor and a student, having just taken off from Elkhorn Airport. The second two observers, one being Oap't* B. J. Southey* Wing Supply Officer and a passenger* / *^ A . ENC LOSURE John B. Schindler, Jr* Maj* Air Corps, A1F-CAF i laison Officer. 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Linden SheridaiIon Citi Midlani nvilhHAM PA, Race traoK . AndersoiMuncii Golden. itvilleRusl LodgeU rsa .ape!Frederick WaynetownNov\ty Camp 'oint ANOloblesyille.Clayton(ange: OChandlerville Sidne; PendletiMaroa EW CAS ’[ionsvtlltRD S'Mount Sterling IMO GHEE' idoga Bement [GREENFIEI toachdalei Ashlam D ublii 'ilia Groveredosia D ecatur D anaPRING itezum Clareni D anville □ POLIS Chrisman'HammondMadon 93° (Joins 35 9) (Joins 35 9) 88' 2UE 87'90° (Joins 35 9) 320 340 370190 200 250 270 290 350110 Revised MAY, 1946MARCH, 1945 BASE CONRAD \'OOO New } impton WSU I . 910 72 142.74 -£32 LF_ 768 , GTON Mount! .Pulaski TERTt -820 20n’-30m & . 50™-60m Crown Poin\ om-iom & \WM>” GLENVIEW 269 NBU ARION 8 32 ,*i GO; BOO EWTON ■ 350 NTE2U M 95 3 CITY 8 30 CED AR 864 Cedar Grove, 302 — 20m-3 CU U Vt SIS WILES, 740, IK U K 6 70 D U BU t 602 WLS & tWENR MU SK EGO I 263 U K . D ECK ER \J224 20n>-30m & , 50">-60m U SK EGOI > 627 | IZICK 800 EVART '035 MOLINE 530 4 Jeavei D am/ McCOOL RAD I 359 ML .« Grundy-Center GRU ND Y CEN XHAPMA ,870 4° 7 .Tipton JlXON 786 J 1LIET RAD IO 2 7 JO-ZI 59O\ ? . MORP, PEORI. 653 . —GLENVIEW TOWER 236 142.7 142.74 140. 654 LF TWIN C 643 O’ -20“ & 41 ।'-50™. BAtD WI 835 [MOLINE RAD U [224 M0J-.r- [CHICAGO RAI L 350 CG -’- OK OMO 127. - ED BERY 650 / Shebbyg Falls CLOU D 872“ -GR6EN 3 ROCHESTER’ l 773 * Tncnestert COXEY 1 OS -BEND L'- TOWER 78 126.11 778 LF BU RLINGTON RAD IO 326 BN -^f 400 Statute [ROCK FORD RAD IOl X 338 RD’-’. J Mount Carroll — BAER- TOWER 396 126 1' 738 Tbrooks ' 350 ILA CROSSE RAD IO! 371 LE’-’- Georgetoydi -/"kCayugi LACK HAWK . -4-600 ihH 1215 SN tit HIWAY 1.665 r Cantoi IOWA\ ISSOUR IOWA CITY RAD IO! 248 IX _.’.•_ GRAND RAPID S Ri ■ 329 GR " ihittenBerger harrison-L- 1 1 OO 1 i Harrisoni ,oso a Race track Miles 380 IOWA CITY - 650 380 Statute 390 Miles 400 •ins 266) 93° (Joins 265 ) N4000-W8500/400X800 ^^t^W 00 GOSHEN’RAD t ■gtrsrx— Administration aeronautical . 1 2, 1 946 FSse t' Elkhti Consult Civil Aeron? Notices for changes oc data on this chart after Compiled at Washington, D . C. by the U ..S. Coast & Geodetic Survey under authority of the Secretary of Commerce for civil aviation and by direction of the " mmanding General. Army Air Forces, for the Aeronautical Chart Service, ar?' Fremont Newaygo. Date of m agnetic inform ation, '947 2°W •ins 265 ) 85° (Joins 264) What Cheer /Webster GREEN 3 > CAA 34 ST CHARLES! <60 J / 695 MACOMB NOTE: It is requested that persons using this chart indicate corrections and additions which come to theinattention and notify "THE D IRECTOR, U .S. COAST AND GEOD ETIC SU RVEY, WASHINGTON 25. D .C." I Harmony M INNESOTA r’S ci&'oun™ . . 80 7- JANPS : 38 0 JD aleviU e, liddletbwn CV.LLE >6®° Clarence 676VE7 • x' Rensselai LEBANON (Lebanon Grand ___ Junctior ■CITY " 640 ’^Z IHANU TK RAD IJ 365 ONU . 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HIGHLAND / ■ z-AEdgerton EaanOle 3^) 8 6° (Joins 35 8 ) |Z6b ID —‘.J RAD F 3RD '95 ^^ D ECATU Illiopolis 67G 'M il iittfi&K M ui 7 rorris reca . A A A A A - - - . . . . - . . - - - _ _ - 100150' 170:140 iddi mol bietln; LANDPLANE FAC ILITIES SEAPLANE FAC ILITIES SEAPLANE SASE - M ILITARY (com plex WS«t>i? <510 ulnspn SEAPLANE BASE-C IVIL (co: imo.'ur.W itiooiW SEAPLANE «"><>>»■ OT.IliP NANSENnwloD October Revolution Revolut.00 IOctoberMeighen I Cheries IsK ing Borden i TH E LENGTH OF LONGEST RUNWAY IN FEET IS INDIC ATED BY TH E INNER C IRC LE OF EAC H SY IOL THU S: 500-54093500-44992500-3499 OVER 65005500-6500 LIGH TING FAC ILITIES Mayen IJMWrangal I »RIAMedvywhi Is OBSTRUC TION LIGH TROTATING BEAC ON.AVIATION NIGH TLIGH TING FAC ILITYROTATING BEAC ON WITH C OURSE LIGH TSAVIATION lL u-aL ROTATING BEAC ON WITH C ODE BEAC ONAVIATION AVIATION BEAC ON FLASH ING C ODE U NION” SOV ZjdBV E PUBI^CK odiak I loculi I M OORING M AST BRITISHCharlotte ^186^ NES OF EQUAL M AGNETIC VARIATION. '280AIR NAVIGATION H AZ ARDS Sable I Flores 424 '] 2 432 546 547' as.AIRPORT APPROAC H AND TRAFFIC Z ONES Andaman It? <749 SGTWI ' Sad FSuTo".6864 C IVIL AIRWAY <973' 10341027 1028 1102 1047 1046,1075 1057 10541080 1074 .1063 .1055 10521069 leeiir ; R 11351104 1124 1125 1128 1129 1132 1134 1143 1145 .1151 .11531142 .1225 )201 J200 1166 -J 1671198 119V 1170 1169,.1196. 1227 1231 1234 1236 .1237 £,1238 12721239 1240 1247 1252 1254 12791257 1264 1265 LAK ELAND RADIO FAN M ARK ER 1348 1339 1317 1313 1312 .1307 -1306 1294 12931335 ,1332 1328 1326 .1325 1311 .1310 7304 1299 1298 1296.1323. .1319 U 318 1379 14071390 .1399 ,1400 RADIOBEAC ON. NON-DIREC TIONAL- 1422145314591462 143411456 .1415 1414 14131450 1449 1444 1420 14191446 1442 .1440 1439 14321438 1435 1476 1476 I 14771466 1467 1479 1482 1484. 1485 1486 1487 .1497.1493 1498 1503 1504 1505 1507 1508 1510 1511 GoughRADIO RANGE FAC ILITY 1557 15181553. 1552 35441548 1546 1526 15231548 1541 1534 1533 15291537 Crozet Is 1603 1604 16061576 .1579. 15981573 1574 1587 1588 1592 1593 1595 1596 BountyAntinode s503 1647 1646 1644 16381642 1637 1632 1631 1629 16091622 1619 1616 1615 1614 Shag RM Bouvet I 1650 1651. 1652 1657 1658 1661 1662 1663 1679 1680 16871665 1673RADIO BROADC ASTING STATION (with frequency) 1720 1719 1718 1717 1715 1714 1713 1709 1708 1707 1706 1702 1696 1695 1693 16891704 M ARINE RADIOBEAC ON W 1722 1723 1724 1725 1726 1727 175017491732 1733 1734 1735 1739 1744 RADIO DIREC TION FINDER STATION 128 h 1770 1769 1764 1760 1759 1756 1755 17531754, 1752 :U "dAdelaide {CAMBRID GE RAD IORADIO C OM M UNIC ATION STATION Alexander I 1795 17981779 1787 1792 17991782 1785 TRANSM ISSION LINE 1814 1813 <7lllWI' 160’130' 150' 170' 180' 170° 130 100' 110' 120’7 DRAINAG E FEATURES it«M so. CIVIL CHA RT SUPPLY GLAC IER H AC H URES C ANAL urrntfT WASH ftINTE AM P SAND ARE, APPROXI M UD. OR TIDAL FLAT SANO RID GES DEPRESSION C ONTOURS .600"~‘ Lend wr INTERM ITTENT LAVA FLOW s* H ARTED ROC K S M ILITA RY CHA RT SUPPLY. CULTURAL FEATURES '(•.ilto: LARGE C ITY Outside Continental United States W 9^S?< TOWN OR VILLAGE Within Continental United States ^Willin’Requisitions from A A F activities w ithin Continental United States are to 9975 H IGH EST ELEVATION ON C HOR RAILROAD OVERPASS K ilometers RAILROAD Q ND ERBA5Srs4o M INE OR QUARRY El Nautical Miles H IGH WAY RANGER STATION 80 Mlles A eronautical charts rendered obsolete-for-air bya>revised edition, w hen not practicable to correct for conform ity C OAST GUARD STATION TRAIL accordance w ith provisions 380-5. RAC E TRAC K fir an ki 1337 TT-r DANGER AREA CAU TION AREA C hatham 1572 Land) 1790 Raw 1217 taSravi Noam's ’ 14 ^"1 FAC ILITIES AVAILABLE AT AIRFIELD_________ _____ (BOX in conjunction with airport indicates radio (nondirectional) AVIATION FLASH ING BEAC ON. Auckland Is 1654 K ENT STREAM S INAL) 1K HF ~ ,9,971 .tcaim I- I L: 1327 iattXlJ LANDPLANE BASE • M ILITARY m iles BASE - JOINT M ILITARY ft C ^Wlee l blot K .rrg Gwige V Land 1780 J Airport traffic zone Airport approach zone WORLD AERONAUTICAL CHART INDEX F-flxed, Fl-flashing, Occ-occulting, Alt-alternating. Go-group. R-red, W-white. G-green, B-blue. Sec-sector. 1112 1113 ?.dS ini' BLUFF. C LIFF, OR ESC ARPM ENT Scale 1:1.000.000 A discount of 33-1/3% from full published prices is allow ed on aeronautical and auxiliary charts am ounting to $10 gross w hen m ade in one shipm ent to one address, Charts are not returnable. (1) A A F activities are to subm it requisitions to the supply facility designated by the Theater Com m ander for m aintenance and distribution of aeronautical charts and m aps. (2) Theater supply facilities are to subm it requisitions for replenishm ent of stocks of aero­ nautical charts and m aps through channels to Headquarters A A F, A eronautical Chart Service, Washington, D. C. .1334 1333 RAILROAD (SINGLE TRAC K ) BRIDGE (RAILROAD) TUNNEL (R*ILROAD )„ (Ref: A A F Reg. 65-82. dated 26 A pr., 1944) 1. A eronautical charts, m aps and publications distributed by A eronautical Chart Service are indexed or listed in the current edition of the A A F “Catalog of A eronautical Charts and Related Publications.” M iscellaneous m aps and charts not appearing in the Catalog w ill be procured and furnished by A eronautical Chart Service through special order, w hen sufficiently identified in requisitions as to nam e or nu'm ber, scale, projection, and publisher if know n. 2. Requisitioning. LARGE RIVER a STREAM S {PERENNIAL) TUNNEL (HIGHWAY) Scale of Series 1:1,000.000 s«tf-”"- iA Lfi wn«9 »«»**•• 1 'jM H U M PROM INENT LANDM ARK (WITH EXPLANATORY NOTE) D RY LAK E A uthorized agents for the sale of aeronautical charts have been appointed at certain airports throughoui the United States for the distribution of aeronautical charts. A list of these agents, w ith the dates of latest prints of charts, w ill be printed from tim e to tim e in the Weekly N otice to A irm en. This inform ation m ay also be obtained from the Director,'- U. S. Coast and Geodetic Survey. Requests for charts m ay also be m ade to the Director, U. S. Coast and Geodetic Survey, Washington 25, D. C., or to authorized dealers. 1 I ' _’~r^ BOUNDARY. PARK OR RESERVATION (M H lptf N LANDPLANE AIRPORT • M ILITARY--------.— (REFUELING a LIM ITED REPAIR FAC ILITIES) LANDPLANE AIRPORT ■ C IVIL------------- (refueling a LIM ITED repair facilities) FLIGH T STRIP (lim ited or no facilities). A lternating lights are red and w hite unless otherw ise indicated. Lights are w hite unless colors are stated. Heights of ligltts are above high w ater. BRIDGE (H ighway H IGH WAY (SEC ONDARY ROUTE, uamai-.j I 646 । 1431 I 1430 be subm itted to appropriate Regional Store as show n on A eronautical Chart Supply System geographic diagram in A A F A eronautical Chart Catalog. E xcept w hen em anating from an A ir Force, Wing, or Com m and Headquarters, requisitions are to bear the signature or approval by indorsem ent of the Base or Station Operations Officer. Quantities of charts and m aps requested are to be such as to assure the m aintenance of a 30-day supply at all tim es but not to exceed a 60-day supply. 3. Obsolete Charts. ____ RAILROAD., (ABANDONED) 1417 1416 DAM a DAM WITH LOC K BLU E 25 ((retire controlled) Oreille uncontrolled) 1698 *1*'’ It: ‘ s । 1519 • SPOT ELEVATION un feeti ?7^ 120st Mon lew IJ RADIO RANGE C OURSES ”N" quadrants are identified BY LINE ON SIDE OF RANGE LEGS nr 1547 RAILROAD (m ultiple tracks) DANGER C URVE ■'''- (com plete facilities) SEAPLANE AIRPORT - M ILITARY______)|____________ (REFUELING a lim ited repair facilitie»)|I SEAPLANE AIRPORT - C IVIL------------------1_--------------- (refueling a lim ited repair facilities) - SEAPLANE AIRPORT - JOINT M ILITARY I C IVII___ (refueling a lim ited repair facilities) SEAPLANE EM ERGENC Y ANC H ORAGE-1------------------ (lim iteo-or no facilities OR logistic inform ation NOT AVAILABLE) "’ I I. K E 6 ' 1778 -.1215 SStfon BOUNDARY. STATE OR INTERNATIONAL 'ernendo deiNoronha 1019 I ,1020 I 1021 1204 i K tTO !.™ Tristan Ida Cunha 1499 1500 104511044 LIGHTS ------------------------------------- (SU RFACE NAVIGATIONAL) LIGH TSH IP---------------------- -I-JK 2 1Vl>W ( LENGTH UNK NOWN iALVESTON RAD IO | 263 GS~~~ I (WITH VOICE) {GALVESTON-. TOWER 396 126.18 _6_LF_J 1621 i»V ___Rbn_. 302 — ore-lO 4 1736 S sH-lend^ Heard I J ^PS 1465 1561 6' 1560 1559 8° 1562 8’ 1561 8° ■ 1564 .1253 ,.1322 1806 >1 '’ •■ 120= FBI SE A TTLE ^DIRE CTOR FBI Qlyin g discs, S. M A N D SE A TTLE WN ., A DVISE THE RE IS N O E L SURSA U OF IKVE 8TI6A IION M PM TM HTOFiUSTfgE W RIGATIO KSECTIO N AU G 6 1947 8-6-47 URGE N T 7 -13 PM PST X. RE TE L PORTLA N D TO DIRE CTOR A UGUST FIVE LA ST. IN TE LLIGE N CE THA T IN THE IR M H& OPIN ION A N D QUE STION OF THE CRA SH OF THE B UW A PPROXIM A TE LY TWO FIFTY A . M BY A N Y SA BOTA GE . THE Y STA TE E N GIN E BURN E D OUT A N E XHA UST BRE A K OFF. THE LE FT WIN G A S M r. Tolson .......... M r. £> A . Tam m .. M r. Clegg............. M r. Glavis ........ M r. Ladd M r. N ichols____ M r. Rosea____. M r. Tracy_____. M r. Bgan_______. M r. Gam e*____. M r. Harbo_____. M r. M ohr___....... M r. Pennington... M r. QuKLSnim . M r. N eaae........ OFFICE RS M CCORD FIE LD, FROM THE IR IN VE STIGA TION TWE N TYFIVE A T KE LSO, WN A UGUST ON E LA ST HA VIN G BE E N CA USE D THE IR IN VE STIGA TION IN DICA TE S THE LE FT STA CK WHICH CA USE D THE WIN G TORE OFF TO BURN A N D THE TA IL A N D THE PLA N E CRA SHE D IN TO THE GROUN D KILLIN G CA PT DA VIDSON A N D LT. BROWN IN TE LLIGE N CE OFFICE RS OF THE FOURTH A IR FORCE WHO WE RE RE TURN IN G FROM M CCORD FIE LD, WN ., TO HA M ILTON FIE LD, CA LIFJORN IA . THE CRE W CHIE F A N D A HITCHHIKE R PA RA CHUTE D TO SA FE TY FROM THE PLA N E ON LY FOUR M E M BE RS WE RE A BOA RD THE PLA N E , DA VIDSON A N D BROWN BE IN G PILOT A N D CO- PILOT A N D HA D N O CHA N CE TO E SCA PE WHE N THE WIN G BROKE OFF LT. COL. DON A LD L. SPRIN GE R HA M ILTON FIE LD, CA LIFORN IA KXX OFFICE R FOR THE FOURTH . A DVISE D THA 1VCA PTA IN DA VI ROWN WE RE SE N T FROM HA M ILTON FIE LD TO IN T L A N D FRE D -CRISM A N A T TA COM A , WN ., RE GA RDIN G THE IR RE PORT OF SE E DIN G SOM E FLYIN G DISCS OVE R M A URY ISLA N D, WN ., A N D THA T N E D SOM E FRA GM E N TS. CRISM A N A N D DA HL A RE PA RTN E RS A OF THE DISC 5 5 LUM BBE R BUSIN E SS® A T L| 2- COPIE S DE STROYE DTA COM A , WA HI N G TON . ' 2?Q N 0V18^1964 ■nn w r ’I ’9 'J W W S IVN^IH: M ™ 8 q/d C iAI303y . ^ 60 ^ ,M ^ PA GE TWO CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D LT. BROWN ON THURSDA Y, JULY US THIRTYFIRST LA ST IN TE RVIE WE D DA HL, CRISM A N , KE N N E TH*7QN OLD, FROM BOISE , IDA HO, WHO WA S ON E OF THE FIRST THA T RE PORTE D SE E N IN G FLYIN G DISCS A N D E M IL Hj^M ITH, UN ITE D A IRLIN E S PILOT FROM SE A TT^, WN ., WHO A LSO RE PORTE D SE E IN G FLYIN G DISCS. THIS IN TE RVIE W TOOK PLA CE A T THE BONU SES WIN THROP HOTE L ON THE A FTE RN OON OF JULY M UM THIRTYFIRST LA ST. CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D LT. BROWN WE RE RE TURN IN G TO HA M ILTON FIE LD FOR A IRFORCE DA Y A N D HA D WITH THE M SOM E OF THE DISC FRA GM E N TS A S RE PORTE D BY DA HL A N D CRISM A N . fl. RE PORTE R PA UL^N TZ OF TA COM A TIM E S, A N D UN ITE D PRE SS WIRE M A N TE D-M ORE LLO OF TA COM A , RE CE IVE D A N ON YM OUS PHON E CA LLS JULY THIRTYFIRST A N D A UGUST FIRST LA ST RE GA RDIN G THE M E E TIN G A T THE WIN THROP HOTE L ON E R THE DISCS FRA GM E N TS A N D THA T THE B- TWE N TYFIVE WHICH CRA SHE D THE M ORN IN G OF A BBS A UGUST ON E WA S flfl SA BOTA GE D OR SHOT DOWN . IN FORM A TION A S YE T N OT VE RIFIE D IN DICA TE D THE E N TIRE STORY STA RTE D BY DA HL A N D CRISM A N POSSIBLY TO PROM OTE SA LE OF SLA G FOUN D IN A GRA VE L PIT ON M A URY ISLA N D, WN . N O IN FORM A TION A VA ILA BLE A S YE T A S TO THE IDE N TITY OF THE IN DIVIDUA L WHO M A DE THE A N ON YM OUS PHON E CA LL TO THE TA COM A TIM E S A N D THE UN ITE D PRE SS, DA HL A N D CRISM A N WILL BE IN TE R­ VIE WE D A S SOON A S POSSIBLE . IN VE STIGA TION CON TIN UIN G. WILCOX E N D 11-33 PM OK FBI WA GH REC EIVED TELETYPE C H IT flue 6 1134 PH NZ F.B.I.DEPT.OF JUSTIC E A- \ / '^^ rP uHfiDasim aiN i aM W6 GN n-j^m aw 150 r' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATE ITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUS' CE August 14, 1947 TO: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. SA C, Seattle URGE N T Transmit the following message to: RE URTE L A UGUST TWE LVE . IT IS N OTE D FROM IN TE RROGA TION OF E M IJ>SM ITH, SM ITH CLA IM S THA T DURIN G THE CON FE RE N CE ON JULY THIRTY ON E TE iT^A HL A N D*CHRISM A N A PPA RE N TLY RE PE A TE D THE IR FA LSE STORY A BOUT THE LA TE RA L BE IN G FRA GM E N TS OF A FLYIN G DISC A N D ON LY ON SA TURDA Y N IGHT A UGUST SE CON D DID DA HL A DM IT THA T THE STORY WA S A HOA X. IF SUCH IS THE CA SE IT WOULD A PPE A R E ITHE R SM ITH CJWKIOLD M A DE THE A N ON YM OUS PHON E CA LLS SIN CE THE Y WOULD HA VE BE E N UN DE R THE IM PRE SSION A T THA T TIM E THA T THE M A TE RIA L FURN ISHE D TO CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D LIE UTE N A N T BROWN WA S A CTUA LLY PA RTS OF A FLYIN G DISC. IT WOULD A LSO A PPE A R THA T DA HL A N D CHRISM A N DID N OT A DM IT THE HOA X TO THE A RM Y IN TE LLIGE N CE OFFICE RS BE CA USE IF THE Y HA D DON E SO THE OFFICE RS PRO Bi PLY WOULD N OT HA VE TA KE N THE A LLE GE D FRA GM E N TS WITH THE M ON THE IR FA TA L FLIGHT. THIS N A TTE R SHOULD BE CLE A RE D UP UPON RE IN TE RVIE W WITH DA HL A N D CHRISM A N . WHE N THIS POIN T CLA RIFIE D N O FURTHE R IN VE STIGA TION N E CE SSA RY HOOVE R RG Fimjp 1 ^®i» rav VIA Per __J22L_L_ A ugust 1, 191*7 yrs. A rthur Douglass A nderson 16 Ledbury Road Springhaven# Cheater, Pennsylvania Dear M rs. A nderson: ^ r Thia w ill acknow ledge receipt of your letter dated July 9, 19b7 * A fter a careful review of the contents of tills letter it w as ascertained that the inforation contained therein w eald probably be of interest to the War Departm ent, therefore, 7 hay® taken the liberty of furnishing this infom ation to that agency. Tour interest in w riting as you did is indeed Sincerely yours, ..................................Tolson E . A . Tam Ciegg___ Olavln Ladd “ N iChoTT Rosen__2 Tracy___ Carson_ E gan Gurnea_ Harbo Hendon Penning1 Quinn T; N ease__ s Gandy jN ICA TION S-SE CTION M A ILE D 9 referred to John E dgar Hoover Director LLC is no identifiable inform ation in the Bureau concerning the w riter of this letter.) "flying saucers.” w ooa g >C * J Jr W 18 JW-asA ia^ ^ ■^?^^ .^^ . V1?.-^ .'. ‘ ' -^^A ^ ;m jW% $? •33113 L-48a FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVEST I gWi ON LABORATORY Date 1947 Mr. Harbo Mr. Long Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Parsons Baughman Conrad Downing Sizoo : Frawley i Keough i Mills ADMINISTRATI ^PERSO^SL RE Miss Miss Miss 7639 7639 7639 7121 7140 7630 7601 7639 . 7639. 763^ RDS ,7th Floo' 6635 M ND-6 MR. .MR. 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L^V-A.—!-:*LJ^_^JJ L ^ a p t„C a ^ sk_Ajr,j?_T H - ' sV.^/> a ^^-/^X^-O// COU NTY IRRITANT from our M ail Box s™=:=:=~= Calling for Decoders Bellm ore—A bout nine at night on July 4th I received the follow ­ ing shortw ave m essage in code, origin unknow n. I kept listening, and about an hour later the m es­ sage w as repeated letter for letter. I can’t figure out w hat it m eans, but here it is: DITE R FO N UHM A SOE SN E N N TWON LA TWA M OTCIA WRA RUSPIDGN IT DRE OR LA SOR STE YM S SO STE N YLFN IG SKIDS DA N WLIL E ST UP WLORD DRE OR N E RUD TIR- M A N A S TE A L HIST A RYE . —Radio Ham . (N either can w e. but w e hope it’s legal.—E d.) pattern w hich other fight do w ell to copy, cd here in pictures, itra’s president, Dr. costum ing by m aking anikin doll. Iler col- especial interest in the ply-assorted sources as y studied and histori-^ 11 but fashionable lady handing, giving pains- Ks coiffure w as show n Ihow n below , doesn’t (-67 E CORDE D A ' „ ' . Vrs. A . G. Sarbanis July 21, 171J 66 M etro Darr A venue Hicksville, Long Island, N ew Tork Dear Il’s. Sartanis: I w ish to acknow ledge receipt of your letter and enclosure dated July 10, 121*7 . I have instructed the Special A gent in Charge of our How Tork Office to have a Special A gent call upon you for the purpose of obtaining farther infom ation in connection w ith this natter. Tour interest in calling this inforontion to m y attention la indeed appreciated* Sincerely youra, John E dgar Hoover D irector cc - Hew York (With liiepRinL. There is no identifiable inform ation in the files of the Bureau concerning the w riter of this letter. The decoding of the m essage on the new spaper clipping w as referred to the Laboratory, w ho subsequently advised that the w riter’s decoding w as substantially correct. There is being set forth below the results of the Laboratory’s decoding: "TIRE D OF HUM A N N ON SE N SE WON T A WA IT A TOM IC WA R DISRUPTIN G ORDE R SOLA R SYSTE M SO SE N T FE TIN G DISKS A N D WILL SE T UP ^ORLD ORDE R UN DE R M A RTIA N S LA TE THIS TA JS’. ur. Tolson Hr. Glav In m t. Lane nr. N ichoE T^ZZZI ““ RosenM T . ur. ur. M T, M r, M T, Hr, Tel M T, Trac£ haroo M ohr ' Peru* Quinn T D.-s Gandy" CUM MUNI aOERM SUM AU W H Vf8n6*TI0N o^. »u*M m *i t>f wsnM ^sy- The N ew York Office should interview the^w ritcr of thia letter to ascertain from w hat new spaper the clipping in question w as obtained. Thereafter, contact should be'm ade w ith this new spaper to ascertain the identity of the person^w ho sent in the coded m essage* T^i3 individual m ust be thoroughly interrogated to obtain all po«^|^ info ration surrounding tha, alleged receipt of the coded m essage. The Bureau 'should bo prbrptly advised of the results 44LWQ9e inquiries.) * /JUL 2 2 1947 p.M . 'ly^ • non5» ^ihiom m m ^ V Q3JIAM .M .B VW f s JUL * ««M i*a»i8iv>“ ’" u*>m » »«m n»> M »i8w *i I«»IW*8- - 'i STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO FROM SUBJE CT: D M R, E DA TE : August 15 1947 theLos TheD irector advised on August 14 1947 that Angeles papers were carrying headlines indicating that Soviet espionage agents had be. instructed to determine the facts relative to they lying discs. The M r. Tolson__________ M r. E . A . Tarn M r. Clegg____________ M r. Glavlr. M r. Ladd M r. N ichols M r. Rosen____________ M r. Tracy____________ M r. Carson__________ M r. E gan_____________ M r. Gurnea M r. Karbo M r. M ohr - — - M r. Pennington M r. Quinn Tanrn__ Tele. Room __________ M r. N ease M iss Ho List M iss Gandy article carried a Washington date line and indicated that Red espionage agents had been ordered to solve the question of the flying discs, the Russians being of the - opinion that this might be some new form of defense prefected by the American M ilitary. The article further recalled that during the recent war pieces of tin foil had been dropped in the air for the purpose of off setting the value of radar being used by the enemy forces and that these aluminum discs might be a new development along this line. The D irector inquired as to whether the Bureau had any such information. I informed him that I had never heard of any information indi cati ng that Soviet espionage agents had been instructed to obtain such information. A check with the officials at G-2 , OM I and at the Air Corps Intelligence was made and it was found that they had no information relative to such a story. In accordance with the D irector's instructions, I advised M r. Nichols that in the event any inquiries were made concerning such a story, that the story should be flatly denied in so far as the EBI was concerned. D M L:FA STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t FROM : SUBJE CT: E . G. D. M . La DA TE : A ugust 18, 1947 M r. M r. M r. M r, M r M r. M r. M r. M r. M r. M r Reference is m ade to your telephonic conversation w ith the Director on Wednesday of last w eek, at w hich tim e the Director advised that Los A ngeles papers carried under a Washington date line an article indicating the Soviet espionage agents in the United States are under instruction to solve the flying discs. Such instructions w ere believed to be based on the assum ption that the flying discs w ere a secret w eapon of the A nny or N avy. Ihe article attributed the source of its inform ation to a Federal investigative agency. Pursuant to your instructions, liaison representatives have contacted the Headquarters of M ilitary Intelligence, the Headquarters of the A ir Forces Intelligence, Office of N aval Intelligence and CIG. A ll agencies denied any know ledge of the flying discs, as w ell as any know ledge of the basis for this article. egfjOm e RECORDED 35 A UG 201941 STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 TO FROM SUBJE CT: forth * UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T DA TE : A ugust P. Coyne 'FLYIN G DISCS furnished setting officers m em orandum of tw o A A F There are attached tw o copies of a blind the facts relative to the reported air crash M r. J. M r. D. M . Ladd £5 AU G 19 1947 investigating flying disc com plaints RE COM M E N DA TION It is recom m ended that a copy of this m em orandum be by the Liaison Section to the A ir Force Intelligence. A ttachm ent RGFsm jp i?k7 son M r. E . A . Tann M r. Clegs M r. Coffey Glavln . Ladd . N ichols M r. Rosen M r. Tracy M r. Carson M r. E gan M r. Gurnea M r. Hendon M r. PennlngTon M r. Quinn Tam ni Tele. Room M r. N ease 'M iss Beahm Office M emorandum • 'un ited states govern m en t BURE A U C, PORTLA N D SUBJE CT: FLYIN G. J1I& GS_ SE CURITY M A TTE R - X DA TE : 8-23-47 The follow ing investigation w as conducted at Canyonville and M yrtle Creek, Oregon on A ugust 12, 1947. RA Y VIRGII/N A TFIE LD, Route 1, Box 195, Roseburg, Oregon, operator of the Tri City A irport, M yrtle Creek, Oregon, advised that on 8-6-47 at approxim ately 6:15 PM w hile instructing a student in a take off at the airport he noticed an object east of M yrtle Creek w hich appeared to be from 5,000 to 8,000 feet in the air. The sky w as com pletely clear and visibility w as excellent. He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of alum inium sheeting. Upon noticing it he had im m ediately taken over the controls of the plane w hich at that tim e w as at 400 feet, and proceeded E ast in an attem pt to further observe the object. He advised that the object appeared to be clim bing and traveling E ast at a high rate of speed v/hich he estim ated on com puter in his plane as 1,000 m iles per hour. He believed the object to spherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the right the a be first tim e he saw it. He observed no vapor trails nor did he hear any noise from the object. A fter searching the area for approxim ately 10 m inutes HA TFIE LD and his student N OBLE ^LLISON returned to the airport and m ade another landing and take off. In practically the sam e position at 400 feet altitude, both E LLISON and HA TFIE LD sav/ the object in approxim ately the sam e position as seen before. He estim ated the sphere to be 30 feet in diam eter and stated w hen they first observed it it object sighted appeared to be so near he could fly right to it. How ever, the the second tim e disappeared in the sam e m anner as the first had It isnoted that HA TFIE LD served as a Lieutenant JG in the U. S. N aval A ir Corps for about 3^ years, flying constantly on the A tlantic subm arine patrol He is a reputable citizen in Douglas County and is reported to be a qualified pilot. M r. N OBLE E LLISON , M yrtle Creek, Oregon, verified the above inform ation as furnished by HA TFIE LD, stating that the first object sighted had been called to his attention w hen HA TFIE LD took over the controls of the plane at about 400 feet follow ing his take off, but that they had both sighted the object on the second take off at the sam e tim e. E LLISON described the object as a "silver ball or balloon" w hich he believed to be 8 m iles east of M yrtle Creek, traveling E ast, and clim bing very fast until it disappeared in approxim ately 45 seconds. E LLISON estim ated the sphere as being 50 feet in diam eter and stated in his opinion the second object appeared to clim b straight up. JOPIE S DE STROVE L 27 0 N OV 18 1864 ■ ^34 ^^ -1947 He advised that he did not observe any evidence of m otion such as vapot or trails, etc. and could hear no noise over the noise of his ow n ship. Investigation in the vicinity of M yrtle Creek, Oregon, has failed to reveal any other person sighting the objects reported by HA TFIE LD and E LLISON . N o further investigation is being conducted. PJM iM B 62-1531 -2- 'E^ERAL BUREAU OF INVESTI^ION 1947 .The Mr. ____Mr. ____Mr. ____Mr. ____Mr. ____Mr. ____Mr. Director Tolson Ladd Rosen Clegg Glavin Nichols Tracy H Records Section Stamp and mail .Prepare tickler o 1 Mr ____Mr. ____Mr. Mr. .Mr. Mr. Mr. Carroll Coyne Fletcher Laughlin McCabe Mohr Nease Pennington Quinn Tamm Tyler file .See .Cal Call me re this and return Gandy- Gray Lyon Artley .Miss .Miss .Miss Miss _Mr. Room NoZe Edward A. Tamm 5 ^ 5734 *4 TELETYPE | M i 3-22 PM LB URGE N T PM LA ST N IGHTFLYIN G DISCS BE TWE E N RA PIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWE ST TO THE N ORTHE A ST TE N SIM ILA R OBJE CTSSA W FORM OF A TRIA N GLETHEPROCE E DIN G RA PIDLY IN THE SA M E DIRE CTION IN IN THE OVE RCA ST SKYA S THIS GROUP OF OBJE CTS WA S A BOUT TO DISA PPE A R THRE E OF THE OBJE CTS ON THE LE FT FLA N K PE E LE D OFF A N D PROCE E DE D IN A CON TIN UE IN A N ORTHE A STE RLY DIRE CTIONA PPE A RE D TO CLOSE RA N KS A N D K OBJE CTS PROCE E DIN GTHRE E E N THIRTY FIVEM IN UTE S LA TE R A LA RGE GROUP OF OBJE CTS E STIM A TE D A T B A N D FIFTY FLE W OVE R THE FBI BUTTE A LL OF THE SE IN DIVIDUA LSTE N M IN UTE S LA TE R IN E FORTY FIVEN IN E THIRTY A N D A GA IN ININ A N ORTHE A STE RLY DIRE CTION PROCE E DIN G RA PIDLY IN A N ORTHE A STE RLY DIRE CTFORM A TION OBSE RVE D A N OBJE CT RE SE M BLIN G A FLYIN G SA UCE R TRA VE LIN G VE RYSCHULTZ WHILE SITTIN G ON THE FRON T PORCH WITH M RS HENRYTWIN FA LLS IDA HO A UGUST N IN E TE E N TH NR HE DSTROM , THIRD A VE N UE N ORTHA N D M RS H H THE RE M A IN IN G OBJE CTS IN THE TRIA N GULA R FORM A TIONN ORTHE RLY DIRE CTION A FE WN U. 3. Oi :.< SE CTION OF THIS CITY A BOUT THRE E TO FIVE A GA IN IN TRIA N GULR ^DIRE CTOR AUG J 0 RE E TO FIVE M IN UTE S LA TE R THE SE IN DIVIDUA LS'' SA W ‘A N OTHE R (M WWM C GROUP DIRE CTION A GA IN IN THE SHA PE . OF13 «»:<:>« I ^‘A WRIA N GLE M IN UTE S LA TE R IN FORM A N TS OBSE RVE ^GROUP CON SISTIN G OF' FROM FIVE TO SIX OBJE CTS ■ 4 03^b /^ Otfzsg |zany srusnr jc uac s’n 18 J ‘ WH V1-03AI333H PA GE TWO TRIA N GULA R FORM A TION . BE TWE E N TWE N TY A N D TWE N TY FIVE M IN UTE S A FTE R THE LA ST GROUP WA S OBSE RVE D, SIM ILA R OBJE CTS WE RE N OTE D COM IN G BA CK OVE R THE CITY VE RY RA PIDLY A N D PROCE E DIN G IN A SOUTHWE STE RLY DIRE CTION . A T THIS TIM E IN FORM A N TS STA TE D THE OBJE CTS A PPE A RE D IN GROUPS OF THRE E , FIVE A N D SE VE N . A T THIS POIN T M RS. HE DSTROM CA LLE D DE TE CTIVE RICHA RD FRA ZIE R OF THE TWIN FA LLS PD, A N E XT DOOR N E IGHBOR, WHO A CCOM PA N IE D BY M . E . ROUN DTRE E A N D RICHA RD SCOTT, A LSO M E M BE RS OF THE TWIN FA LLS PD, PROCE E DE D TO THE HE DSTROM HOM E WHE RE THE Y OBSE RVE D A GROUP OF TWE LVE OBJE CTS FLYIN G IN FORM A TION OVE R THE CITY IN A SOUTHWE STE RLY DIRE CTION . IN FORM A N TS, A LL RE PUTA BLE CITIZE N S THIS COM M UN ITY, UN A BLE TO E STIM A TE HE IGHT OF OBJE CTS OR SPE E D, BUT CLA IM E D THE Y RE SE M BLE D ILLUM IN A TE D FLYIN G SA UCE RS. THE SE IN DIVIDUA LS WE RE OF'THE OPIN ION THA T THE OBJE CTS OBSE RVE D WE RE N OT THE LA N DIN G LIGHTS OF A IRPLA N E S N OR SHYIN G STA RS. N ON E OF THE SE OBJE CTS WE RE SE E N TO COM E TO E A RTH N E A R TWIN FA LLS A N D N ON E A PPE A RE D TO BE FLYIN G IN A N A RC. N ON E OF THE SE OBSE RVE RS HE A RD A N Y SOUN D A S THE M M K A BOVE OBJE CTS PA SSE D OVE R THE CITY. IN VE STIGA TION CON TIN UIN G IN LIN E WITH BURE A U IN STRUCTION S CON TA IN E D BURE A U BULLE TIN N O. FORTY TWO, PA RA GRA PH B, DA TE D JULY THIRTY LA ST. IN E VE N T BURE A U IN POSSE SSION OF A N Y IN FORM A TION CON CE RN IN G E XPE RIM E N TA L A CTIVITIE S ON „ . ;h Ju 'idJu ■ vad . janaas im aim .Hd^€ 62* 3AI2 J^M 03*13338 . PA GE THRE E PA RT OF A RM Y A IR FORCE S WHICH M A Y E XPLA IN THE SE PHE N OM E N A , A DVICE WOULD BE GRE A TLY A PPRE CIA TE D. IT IS BE LIE VE D CON TIN UE D A PPE A RA N CE OF SUCH OBJE CTS WITHOUT OFFICIA L E XPLA N A TION M A Y RE SULT IN HYSTE RIA OR PA N IC TWIN FA LLS, IDA HO. BA N ISTE R A CK A N D HOLD PLS 5-31 PM OK FBI WA SH DC WJR • - < REC EIVED TELETYPE UH H A ug 20 5 3U PM ’^7 ■ ■ ' /aSH C E junaas ^N BaiN /*u«£ HJ- AUGUST 25, 19^7 - URGENT ' SAC BUTTE FLYING DISCS. EXTENSIVE INQUIRIES AT ARMY AIR FORCES REVEAL THAT NO RESEARCH OR EXPERIMENTS WERE BEING CONDUCTED BY AAF IN THE VICINITY OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO ON OR ABOUT AUGUST NINETEEN. IN THE EVENT YOUR SOURCES IN THE ARMY, NAVI OR AIR FORCES INDICATE OTHERWISE ADVISE BUREAU PROMPTLY. records < HOOVER RGF:EW 0C 30 J^AND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO D. M . Ladd FROM SUBJE CT: E. G. FLUN G DISCS DA TE : A ugU3t 22 dated Reference is m ade the teletype from the Butte Field Division A ugust 20, 1947, in the above captioned m atter. 1947. Tolson___J M r. F. a. Tam S M r. Clegs______ Ur. Coffey____ Ur. Glavln ___ M r. Lcdd_____ M r. N ichols___ M r. Rosen__2 M r. Tracy____ M r. M ohr_______ M r. Carson_____ M r. Hendon_____ M r. M tanfoj Jones In accordance w ith your request, this m atter w as checked w ith A rm y A ir Forces. Lieutenant Colonel George D. Garrett, Jr., advised r Special A gent F. P. Griffee that extensive inquiries w ithA the A rm y A ir Forces revealed that no research or experim ents w ere being conducted by the A A F in the vicinity of Tw in Falls, Idaho on or about A ugust 19, 1947 Colonel Garrett stated that he had no inform ation w hich w ould throw any light on the m atter reported in the teletype. Ur. Quinn Tarr Tele. Room ____ M r. ^^U-^— M iss 3«fc|£7” M iss G^dy^^ AC H ON It is suggested this m em orandum be routed Section to the attention of Supervisor Fletcher. to the Internal Security OM E REC OK DBA •JW.^ - V > V ^^ . CC - 150 EDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIVE' • TED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE A UGUST 30, 1& 7 URGE N T TO: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. SA CS SA L FRA N CISCO A N D PHOB’IX Transmit the following message to: RE PORT OF FLYIN G DISCS, RE SA KE HE M O A UGUST WE N T! FIGHT LA ST CON CE RN IN G IN A E S, PHOE N IX, A RIZON A . SA N F A DVISE A -WO A IR FORCE LOT N E CE SSA RY FOR FUGA TE TO PROCE E D TO PHOE N IX, THA T BURE A U WILL HA N DLE IN TE RVIE W IF DE SIRE D, BUT JOIN T IN VE STIGA TION N OT DE E M E D N E CE SSA RY. IF FUGA TE PROCE E DS PH3FN IX IN SPITE OF A BOVE , A DVISE HIM YOU A RE N OT A UTHORIZE D TO CON ­ DUCT JOIN T IN VE STIGA TION A N D KOT POSSIBLE FUR FUGA TE TO SIT IK ON IN TE RVIE W' WITH HOOVE R EAU M r. M r. lir, Tolson E . A . Tam m Clegg Glavln Ladd N ichols Rosen Tracy Carson E gan________ Gurnea Harbo Hendon OMMU NICA Ur. Pennington M r. Quinn Taom [Ur. Lease pss Gandy T IN DE XE D GnO H COPIES E270 DESTROYED N OV 181964 SENT VIA -RECORDED 7 'iO : M Per STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum • UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T Tj Director date: Septem ber 5, 1947 SUBJE CT: SA C, Portland 'Flyin g discs SE CURITY M A TTE R - X Reference is m ade to m y teletype dated A ugust 15, 1947 advising that a M r. JORTTJA itTLE TT of A gate Beach, Oregon had reported on A ugust 7 , 1947 that he sighted w hat he believed to be a disc. M r. JOHN BA RTL, instead of BA RTLE TT, now residing in N ew port, Oregon w as interview ed by Special A gent ROBE RT J. PE TTYJOHN . M r. BA RTL stated that on A ugust 7 , 1947 he w as residing at A gate Beach, Oregon and that his house w as very near the ocean beach; that at about 12:30 A . M . he w as j aw akened by his son com ing in and that w hile aw ake he noticed a bright glow of J light across the sky out over the ocean. He stated that he im m ediately thought of B flying discs and thought this m ight be one of the discs. | M r. BA RTL w ent on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of I this object but that it appeared to be about five m iles out over the ocean and that he w as able to see it for about 15 to 30 seconds. He further stated that due to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought it w as traveling a great deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen. He inform ed that this glow of light w as som ew hat sim ilar to "The N orthern Light" w hich som etim es appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared to be going up and dow n, that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along. He stated it disappeared in the w est, either falling into the ocean or disappearing over the horizon. He could give no other inform ation concerning this object of light reported by him as possibly being a flying disc. M r. BA RTL has an A gate and M yrtlew ood shop in N ew port. / RjP/es 55 SE P30 tember 2 . 1^47 T. -^illtamaSr 8417 Eaat Steoenaon Street FlorenceAlabama Pill tame: Tgton Sear Sr; John Edgar Hoover director Tour letter of Aujuat Id 12 47 naa been EECsblf n 5^^eO 1 1947 f R ftDt^1 ^ecow^d/ WUFXBP I 2 <3 89-X3 received and I aa moat appreciative of the thought- fulneas which prompted you to communicate with ne for your information, no reward has been offered by 3 government Agency for the location of 'fill in J aaucero I regret that I am unable to be of aeoiotance ~in thia instance any "C an ws"“ Sincerely yours. STAND ARD »% UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO FRO SUBJE CT: FLYIN G DISC to destruction How ­ It is an Director, FBI DA TE : A ugust 20, 1947 : SA C, Springfield Reference is m ade to Bureau Bulletin N o. 42, Series 1947, dated July 30, 1947 re the above For the Bureau's inform ation a Illinois reported to this office the finding of a flying disc in her front yard at 6:00 A .U» on July 26, 1947 It appears from investigation conducted by an A gent of this office that the stability of JUN E A N DE RSON is questionable ever the alleged flying disc w as obtained and it is apparently the concoction of som e of the juveniles in the area old w ooden platter, w hich has assem bled on it a silver plate, a spark plug, a tim er, and som e old brass tubing Photographs w ere taken of the sam e and there are six view s enclosed herew ith N o doubt this w as som eone’s idea of a prank The disc is presently being retained by the Springfield Office and vq.11 be retained pending receipt of Bureau advice relative to its The thought in retaining it w as Bureau m ight desire to have it transm itted that perhaps the novel value it m ight have Washington for any JBPihg 62-0-1445 E nc. (6) E nclosure - To Bureau Photographs of "Flying Disc" found at Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47 SI File 62-0-1445 . "Flying Disc" 81s Found Saybrook, Ill. 7 -26-47 ‘ 8 i £ "Flying Disc" Found Saybrook, Ill. 7 -26-47 3 i S "Flying Disc" Found Saybrook, Ill* 7 -26-47 . "Flying Disc* o 1 3 Found Saybrook, Ill. 7 -26-47 ’•Flying Disc" Found Saybrook, Hl., 7 -26-47 SAC, Springfield Director, FBI FLUNG DISC September 5, 1947 RECORDED With reference to your letter, dated August 20, 1947, it is desired that you contact the appropriate Army officials and in the event they are not interested in receiving this alleged flying disc, it may be destroyed. RGF:LH E r. Tolson____________ Lx. E . A . Tam m E r. Clegg______________ E r. Olavin_______________ E x. Ladd_________________ E r. N lchoTs~~ZZZ E r. Rosen._______________ E r. Tracy________________ E r. Carson______________ lx. E gan _______________ E r. Gurnea_______________ [com m un ication s SEC TION M AILED IO * SEP 6 ' 1947 P,M ERM BU REAU OF INVESTIGATION 4 ’u. 8. D EPART*'*' M ,U^L- E r. Harbo_______________ E r. Hendon _____________ , E r. Perx.IngTon^ZZ—£ E r. Quinn Tam m . y E T. N ease / // E lss Gandy / y ptSAL BUREAU Of INVESTIGATION M. 8. D EPARTMENT OF JU STICE COMMU NICATIONS SECTION SEP ^47 I M r. Tolson . .. M r. E . A . Tam m ' M r. Clegg 1 M r. Clavin .. M r. Ladd M r. N ichols I M r. Rosen teletype E ^an . Gernea . Kr. Um bo FBI PORTLA N D 9-4-47 3-42 PM PST KA M IRE CTOR U R G E N T FLYIN G DISCS 'A M RS. RA YM ON M iss ; • "■ I t anington.. M r; Quinn Tam m . M r. N ease........... TO HA VE’Ui, OSWE GO, ORE GON , RE PORTE D ' SE E N TWE LVE TO FIFTE E N ROUN D SILVE R OBJE CTS A T A HIGH A LTITUDE A T TWE LVE FIFTE E N PM , SE PT. THIRD, FORTYSE VE N , A BOVE OSWE GO, ORE GON , WHILE WA TCHIN G A LOCA L PLA N E FLYIN G OVE RHE A D. WILL BE IN TE RVIE WE D. BOBBITT E N D 94H0DD PLS - 7 -4 5 PM OK FBI WA S^C iU|l fissuA^^ ^qo^^ 3 16 5 c u s o o co J o CM H CD U J u-> C3 CO O_ 5 Cf? ^A<#^^' ^A? 7 , 01 c ^IVEO TELETYPE^ Sep 4 7 45 Fil ’l^ w^C EPT.OF JUSTIC E '^„ uJ O uJ Ct ct uJ ^ ^kH pz e S J3S ^a^isnr & id3G$ n IE J WAH yi-a3AI303H *0,,,' c ID ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t TO : DIRE CTOR DA TE : 9“13“47 FROM : SA C, PORTLA N D 7 O SUBJE CT: FLYIN G DISCS SE CURITY M A TTE R - X Reference is m ade to m y teletype dated 9-4-47, advising that M rs. HA YM ON D^DUPUIS, Osw ego, Oregon, w as reported to have seen a num ber of discs on 9~3"47 above Osw ego. M rs. DUPUIS w as interview ed and described the object w hich she has observed as follow s* * While entertaining her 7 year old son and 10 year old neighbor child on her law n, at about noon, M rs. DUPUIS and the children noticed approxim ately tw o dozen round silver objects high in the sky. M rs. DUPUIS stated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped rather than spherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub type w hich w as flying in a different portion of the sky at the sam e tim e. She advised that these objects appeared to her to be at a great distance and constructed of som e w hite m etallic m aterial. M rs. DUPUIS* attention w as first draw n to the objects by an ex­ planation from one of the children to the effect that the airplane w as sky­ w riting. The objects w ere grouped in approxim ately an arc about level w ith the sun and to the left of the sun as view ed by M rs. DUPUIS. They did not change positions during the 3 or 4 m inutes w hich she pbserved them but som e of the larger of the objects appeared to rotate rapidly in the m anner of a w heel. One of the objects w as separated by considerable distance from the m ain group and w hile she w as w atching M rs. DUPUIS states this object began to fall and floated slov/ly dow nw ard until it w as no longer visable because of trees on the horizon. M rs. DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the rem aining objects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightness of the sky w hereupon she w ent into her house and is unable to state w h^t becam e of the group. ^A ^d/Jrd ^TORd^jj- 55 SE P3W? datb: Septem ber 8, 1947 ■UNG DISC S on or about A ugust 19, 1947 Colonel Garrett Griffee that he w ould check w ith the A rm y area recordE SEP 7 M R. D. M , UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T FROM Office M emorandum E. G. Fitch SUBJE CT: Reference is m ade to m y m em orandum to you in the above captioned m atter dated A ugust 22, 1947 , w hich indicates that Special A gent Griffee of the liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colonel G. D. Garrett, Jr of the A ir Forces Intelligence at w hich tim e Colonel Garrett advised that the A m y A ir Forces w ere conducting no research or experim ents in the Ur. Tolson__________ M r. E . A . Tam ' m t. ciegg___________ M r. GlavIn_________ M r. Ladd_____________ M r. N ichol^ M r. Rosen___________ M r. Tracy___________ M r. Carson_______ M r. E gan__________ M r. Gurnea M r. Harbo_________ M r. M ohr . M r. Pennington_____ M r. Quinn Taur Tele. Room _________ M r. N ease M iss M iss Gandy__________ vicinity of Tw in Fails, Idaho at that tim e indicated to M r ^FZ'i in order to ascertain w hether or not they w ere conducting any experim ents in this vicinity at that tim e. Colonel Garrett has subsequently advised Hr. Reynolds that he has been advised by the A nny area that no such experim ents w ere being conducted in the area of Tw in rails, Idaho, on or about A ugust 19, 1947 , w hich w ould in any w ay throw any ligit on the m atter reported in the teletype RE COM M E N DA TION It is recom m ended this m em orandum be forw arded to M r. Fie tabs r' ’ of the Internal Security Section. cv/ -'^“^ r R3SEP 22194 » * September 25, 194 7 Mr. A. C ourtney Parker Superintendent of Schools South Royalton, Vermont Dear Mr. Parker* I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated September 17, 194 7. An Agent of our Albany, New York, Office will call upon you in the near future for any additional in­ formation in your possession. Your courtesy and interest in bringing this matter to my attention are indeed appreciated. Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover Director cc - Albany (separate cover ■RE CORD®0 62-83894 RGFicmw letter) . Tolson__________ . E . A . Tam m • Clegg____________ . Olavin . Ladd ---------------- . N ichols'------------- . Rosen___________ • ~racy • £«& ** . Ournea__________ . Harbo___________ . Kohr_________ . Pennington . Quinn Taran Tele. Room __________ M r. N ease___________ M iss Gandy '555555 55555555 C OM M UNIC ATIONS SEC TION m ailed 11 ^■sn5 2 a 1947 P M ; FED ERAL BU REAU OF IhVESTIBATION / u. 3. D EPARTIW OF JU STICfc/ /i O < PU SZ ^ SAC, Albany September 26, 1947 Director, FBI FIXING DISCS A. Courtney Parker, Informant Attached hereto are copies of an incoming communication from A Courtney Parker, Superintendent of Schools, South Royalton, Vermont, and copies of acknowledgment of same* It is requested that an Agent of your Office call on Mr. Parker to obtain any additional information in his possession concerning flying discs. ea :m ae ...............................Tolson £. A . Tam m & ?t Ladd N ichols Rosen Tracy Carson E gan________ Gurnea Harbo Hendon Pe nr. IngTon" Quinn Tam m " N ease s Gandy ^ C OM M UNIC ATIONS SEC TION MAILED J 1 | ☆ SEP as 1947 P.M . k '1 yA FED ERAL BU REAU OF INVESTIGATION < U . 3. D EPARTMENT OF JU STICE STA T.E Ob’ VE RM ON T CHELSEA NORWICH ROYALTON DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION ORA N GE - WIN DSOR - DISTRICT A. COURTNEY PARKER, Superintendent SOUTH ROYALTON S1IA R< I straff’ TUNBRI September 17, 1947 Federal Bureau Washington, D. Of C. Investigation Dear Sirs: At 5:40 P.M. to-day I observed a so-called flying saucer. Tnis occurred wnile I was naif way up Rix Ledges north of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watching tne noney bees circling in a paten of sky after leaving my bee box my attention was called to a floating object that appeared to be as large as a tennis ball and as wnite as cotton batting. This object approacned from the East and was followed closely that appeared in size and shape a constant angle of inclination at a constant distance. Tne two like a to the rapidly and noiselessly by another object saucer which maintained ball and followed it objects made an angle with my eye of approximately five degrees. Tney were in my vision for more than a minute when I lost them in the glare of the sun If I had seen tnis in tne night sky with my six incn telescope I would nave thought that the planets Venus and Saturn had suddenly gotten together and were traveling at great speed much nearer tne eartnv *1 SEP 19 l!M^CO^®° Very truly yours^/^/ nrperintendent of^bcherls Office of D irector FEDERAL BUREAU 'OF INVESTIGATION UNITED STATES DEPARTM ENT OF JUSTIC E September 8, 19417 s M r. M r. M r. M r. M r. M r. Tracy Carson E gan Gurnea Harbo Hendon Glavin Ladd / N i choIs______ Rose n________ The attached was sent to the D irector by Walter Winchell, The notations appearing thereon read: "Ack & F.B.I." M r. Jones, M r. Pennington__ Tele. Room M r. N ease M iss Holm es, M iss Gandy "please excuse haste - make airmail west," Attachment mt Bureau f record o M erchant letter, es^fail to reflect any a M rs. M adeline Gwynne the writer of the attached |5 SEP 1^ 1947 ^'M- Hlu fOR J.S. DEPT. OF JUSTIt Sep 0 5 os PH’il? V 5 ^sM’v A- M rs. M adeline Gwynne M er^ant M r. nalter Winchell, °/o Postm aster, Los A ngeles, Calif July 15, 1947 ^ 1___________________ Box 263, Santa Fe, Flew M exico Bear M r. w incnell; T^q' one look'dLiter deals w ith w hatare being called "discs.” You are not to m ention the contents of this letter over the air, nor to any individual otner tnan officials of rhe w ar Bep't., m em bers of the fBI, or an A m erican w hose patriotism w ould rank w ith your ow n, and w ho m ight donate $10,000 or m ore for tne purpose of m y continuing the collection of field data concerning "discs," w hile tim e m ay rem ain in w hich to do so. I have had respectful attention from the follow ing persons; (aut ng chsctto; nor please-account s.-even,) Col. Herbert C. Gee, Com m . Officer, Los A lam os A tom ic Project, Los A lam os, N .M . M aj. Sidney N ew burger, Security Official, Los A lam os A tom ic Project, Los A lam os, N .M . M r. Hillard Zim m er, M ilitary Intelligence, P.O. Box 6bl, -Brands Jinley, A gent-in-Charge, federal Bureau or In A dgation, (Phone 1566) Santa le, N .M . ” Gen. S.R. 'Brenhau.lt, A ss’t. to Lt. Gen. N athan J1. Tw ining, A A T M ateriel Com m and, Washington, D.C. Col. Zum w alt, A ss’t to Colonel Bunker, Com m . Off. Kirtland field, A lbuquerque, N .M . Gen. Patrick Hurley, (form er A m bassador to China,) 1210 Shoreham Bld’g. (A lso Santa re, N .M .) Washington, D.C. A nd through the courtesy of Gen. Patrick hurley, a lex ter from Sec. of War Robert Patterson, War Dep’t, Washington^ D. A ll w ere highly interested, appreciative, w ith the general trend of contacts being, “This is fine. Go right ahead.” M y point in w riting you is to raise som e m oney to proceed w ith. N o budgets seem ed to allow for the unexpected, elusive “discs." Sen. Carl natch, D-N .M ., U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. nas been contacted by m ail tor an appropriation^, but even if this only requires one m ore w eek, it m ay be too late. You m ay contact any of the above listed persons to verify m y contacts (excuse repetition w ord contact) during the past four m onths. In other w ords, I began reporting directly to Dr. N orris Bradbury, Scientific Head of Los A lam os, and Colonel Gee, et al, som e tim e ago that this type aerial “disc" w as a reality. * This m aterial w as considered confidential, and still is. H I have been asked by Colonel Gee not to speak any further I than m aterial w hich has been published in the press. A nd I have B chosen sim ply not to speak at all, except to a source w hich I consider^B m ight further m y ow n w ork. B If you ask of the above persons, to ascertain w hether or H not I have m ade serious, m aterially valuable contributions, w hich B m ay indicate m uch scientifically............ and w hich, if action can be B continued soon enough, m ay a little later save our nation m uch,... ■ please m ake inquiries quietly, and as prom ptly as convenient. H I m ust ask you not to speculate, even to yourself... H but sim ply to act. B no not m ention in any m anner, until release by the War B Dep’t, even tne receipt of this letter, except to the above persons, B or proper governm ent officials there. Or, to one w hom you know w ill B m ake a donation. B Perhaps your savest bet w ould be sim ply to telephone the B ibl there, and let them telephone Trancis Tinley here for verification. 1 I prom ise you an exclusive, behind tne scenes story w hen, and if, tne w ar Dep’t releases the m aterial nationally. M eantim e, your action now m ay save your ow n life, and that of others w ho m ay ‘ have w ondered w hat a “disc" is. 1 Rest assured I have all the pin per scientific and governm enta contacts needed............ all I need is the w herew ithal!. I have the 1 proper background to discuss tne subject, secure the further Held data I new need, explain it technically, and secure proper action, provided I am given the m eans to do so. I regret that I cannot be m ore specific now , but duty to country rests above. I have m et before w ith the m ental reaction, "What? A w om an handing this type m aterial? 11 A nd m y signature below w ill probably evoke the sam e response from you. So I assure you, yes, it is a w om an v/ho is com ing in w ith the inform ation w hich m en have gone out to seek. A nd doing the proper thing about it. cc/ P.S. A m a form er new spaper person, and very proud of it. A m 59, but dress and feel som e younger. A gain, I m ust ask you not to m ention even the tow n from w hich this letter com es, as you m ay be endangering lives to so so. Sim ply ascertain m y contributions, get som e m oney to m e, and w ait, (francis linley tonpl £ w ould give m e a gas budget, if ne w ere not so close him self.) •-ere w ant FORM NO. 64 UN ITE E ^TA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO M r. R. T. Harbo DA TE : A ugust 28, 1947 FROM T. F. Baughm an subject: Letter and m aterial received from M rs. J. H^ii^xon E BWll, South Carolina Route 1, Box 30 Henaon" M r E r M r M r. Quinn 1 Tele, boom M r. M ease M iss Beata M iss Gandy’ E r. lolson The attached letter dated A ugust 14, 1947 from M rs. M ixon to­ gether w ith the m aterial w hich she reports to be part of a flying saucer w as received in the Laboratory on A ugust 19, 1947 . The m aterial w hich w as subm itted w ith M rs. M ixon's letter has been identified as pow dered soap stones. Inasm uc’ as the Investigative and Security Divisions m ight possibly be interested in this m atter, I request that ou advise m e as to the final disposition of the subm itted m aterial as •w ell as the type of reply w hich should be m ade to M rs. M ixon’s letter. JWiPVH ^co^ <7 7^( '32 SEP18i947 STANt^RD FORM NO. 84 Office M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t TO FROM SUBJE CT: J. P. C D. U. Ladd date: Septem ber 4, 194' Kr. L- E r E r. TolM E A . Tam Cl*'?,:______' Corfey E r. hoson_ M r. Trary_ E r. Cars- M r. L-er. — . .urr.:# IX. H«ncin Reference is m ade to the m em orandum from M r. Baughm an to M r. Fer.:.biTo7 Quiru: 7 axr. Harbo, dated A ugust 28, 1947 , requesting tion of m aterial subm itted by M rs. J. H It is noted that this m ateriaTfw E ic M ixon vice as to the final disposi- E still, South Carolina. / a flying saucer, has been identified as pow dered reported to be a soap stones. part o It is reconinended that the m aterial be returned to M rs /^1 M ixon along w ith a letter advising that such has been identified as pow dered soap stones. RGFiLH ^ X £1-^ ^^ w 32 SEP^^47 111 aU ^ WvP-03AI333B a-jiisn> *u iajG s I 9 J H 0.m 8’ P^Z . S J3 iM J^J^ 5 <^ hM 333> n oisim o A HOivyoev ’ I J M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t Reference is m ade to San Francisco letter dated A ugust 2S, 1947 , \ and to Bureau teletype to Phoenix dated A ugust 30, 1947 . With reference to the above m atter, I desire to point out that the letter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Fhoenix until Septem ber 2, 1947 . On A ugust 29, 1947, a M r. GE ORGE FUGA TE , JR. called at the Phoenix office and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of A -2, Fourth A ir Force, Ham ilton Field, California. He also exhibited orders em anating from the office of Colonel DON A LD SPRIN GE R, A -2, Fourth A ir Force, Ham ilton Field, California, instructing him to proceed to Phoenix im m ediately and contact the FBI office, at ■w hich tim e a Special A gent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation w ould be designated to accom pany him to interview WILLIA ?J^RM C5eS, w ho had previously, - reported the photographing of a flying disc. The orders further indicated that the San Francisco office of the FBI w as transm itting further inform ation re­ lating to M r. FUGA TE’S m ission. A SA C HE BE R M . CLE GG telephonically com m unicated w ith SA C HA RRY KIM BA LL of the San Francisco office and M r. KIM BA LL verified the above inform ation and stated that a letter had been directed to the Fhoenix office suggesting that the Phoenix office assist any representative w ho called from A -2 in the interrogation of RHODE S. SA C KIM BA LL stated that in connection w ith flying discs, he had m ain­ tained close contact w ith Colonel SPRIN GE R and that close cooperation existed. He further advised that m any reports of flying discs had been received at San Francisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had < been held w ith Colonel SPRIN GE R. ' In connection w ith flying disc investigations, M h. KIM BA LL advised he had m aintained close touch w ith the Bureau and had apparently handled these m atters in accordance w ith Bureau policy. In view of the above, Special A gent J. BA ILE Y BROWE R of the Fhoenix office w as perm itted to w ork w ith M r. FUGA TE in the interview of WILLIA M A LBE RT RHODE S. The results of the inquiry are set out hereunder. 2 7 0 M OV 18 1964 RECEIVED ?I9 115^ INTERNAL SECURITV Phoenix file 62-213 WILLIA M A LBE RT RHODE S, 4333 N . 14th Street, Phoenix, A rizona, ow ns and m aintains the Panoram ic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address, and he related the follow ing as occurring on the afternoon of July 7, 1947 : ’ A storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947 , and the clouds w ere at approxim ately 5000 feet, the color of w hich w as grey and they resem bled dense cum ulus. A fifteen m ile per hour w ind w as blow ing. A t approxim ately 5 p.m . on that date, M r. RHODE S w as w alking from his hom e to the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resem bling a P-80 aircraft, apparently com ing in a w esterly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the northeast w hat appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship as being possibly 20 to 30 feet in diam eter, traveling at an estim ated speed of 100 m iles per hour. It appeared to be m aking a spiral in a sm all radius of possibly one-half to three quarters of a m ile. RHODE S stated the sound w hich he first heard w as no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brow nie Box Cam era from his shop, and as the aircraft com pleted the first circle he obtained a photograph. A s the ship started on the second turn, it w as in a northw esterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, w hich m ore closely resem bled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being designated as E xhibit II, as subm itted to the Bureau w ith letter dated A ugust 4, 1947 , by the Office of A ssistant Chief of Staff A -2 Intelligence, Ham ilton Field, California. RHODE S further described the direction of the ship by stating that instead of com pleting the lefthand dow nw ard spiral the ship banked to the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked, he had snapped the second photograph, E xhibit II. A t the last point, w hich w as at the tim e the ship m ade this turn, M r. RHODE S estim ated it to be betw een 1,000 and 2,000 feet high. He further des­ cribed the appearance of this ship as closely resem bling a picture w hich appeared on the front cover of the M ay, 1947, issue of the M echanics Illustrated M agazine, the only difference noted by M r. RHODE S being that the ship appeared to be fly­ ing backw ard. M r. RHODE S also related that he did not associate the appearance of this ship w ith the num erous reports of flying discs. He related, how ever, that after a three m inute interview w ith new spaper reporters the story that appeared in the local papers w as "blow n up" to the extent that he, RHODE S, barely recog­ nized the inform ation furnished by him . M r. RHODE S explained that the afore­ m entioned dim ensions and distances w ere only estim ated, pointing out, that his previous experience probably assisted him in m aking fairly close estim ates. He related that he had been doing experim ental w ork for the past ten years. He also stated he w as em ployed at the N aval Ordnance Laboratory, Washington, D. C. during the early part of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942. Upon his return to Phoenix, he w as em ployed at Falcon Field near Phoenix w hich w as leased by the British Governm ent for training purposes. He instructed in instrum ent training, aircraft identification and gunnery practice. He explained that his hobbies have to do w ith science, physics, radio, electronics and astronom y. He produced a m odel w hich he had m ade of a radio controlled airplane. He related that m ost of his w ork consists of building transform ers, but it is also necessary for him to depend upon his m usic ability for his livlihood. - 2 - Phoenix file 62-213 In explaining the results of photographing the ship, M r. RHODE S stated that he w as surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back­ ground; that he fully expected that the object w ould be light on a dark back­ ground. He described the light spot w hich appears in the center of the object (E xhibit II) as being a green house. RHODE S insisted that the ship m ade no noise that w as audible to his ear and he w as unable to detect the presence of any propeller. He also related that after the new spaper release over Radio Station KTA R, w herein statem ents w ere m ade that he, RHODE S, had stated A rm y officials w ere studying the photographs, and that it w as a top secret, he attem pted to determ ine the source of this release and the Radio station finally- told him that it w as a United Press release from Washington, D. 0. The follow ing description of RHODE S w as obtained from observation and interrogation: A ge 30 Date birth 12-29-16 Place birth Garden City, Kansas Height 6' 3" Weight 155 pounds E yes Blue Hair Brow n E ducation Phoenix Union High School M arital status M arried- one son It should be stated that at the tim e of interview w ith RHODE S, M r. BROWE R identified him self as an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and exhibited his credentials. How ever, pursuant to a request from M r. FUGA TE , he w as introduced only as a representative of the United States governm ent. His exact official connection w as not m ade know n to M r. RHODE S. A gent BROWE R advised that he felt it w as a peculiar procedure, but it w as not his business. How ever, at the conclusion of the interview , M r. FUGA TE requested M r. RHODE S to furnish him w ith the negatives and RHODE S stated he w ould be glad to do so, but they w ere not in his im m ediate possession, and he w ould deliver them to the FBI the follow ing m orning. M r. RHODE S requested that the negatives be returned to him . A gent BROWE R states that to this request, M r. FUGA TE m ade no reply. A gent BROWE R states that after leaving M r. RHODE S he asked FUGA TE if the negatives w ould be returned to M r. RHODE S and FUGA TE stated that he doubted very m uch that they w ould be returned. M r. BROWE R then advised M r. FUGA TE that before he, BROWE R, w ould accept these negatives that RHODE S m ust be advised of M r. FUGA TE 'S identity and also advised that the negatives, if turned over to M r. FUGA TE , w ould not be returned to him . - 3 - Phoenix file 62-213 In view of w hich, on the m orning on A ugust 30, 1947, w hen M r. RHODE S called at the Phoenix office to d eliver the negatives, they w ere accepted only- after he w as advised that they w ere being given to M r. FUGA TE , a representative of the A rm y A ir Force Intelligence, United States A rm y, and that there w as little, if any, chance of his getting the negatives back. M r. RHODE S turned the negatives over to this office w ith the full understanding that they w ere being given to the A rm y and that he w ould not get them back. The Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of reference instructing that no joint investigation should be conducted until after the m atter had been handled. Inasm uch as m ilitary authorities have com plete know ledge of the results of the interview w ith M r. RHODE S no copy of this report is being designated for A -2. JBB-kb cc-San Francisco 62-213 - 4 - * 4- FBI PORTLA N D IRE CTOR FLYIN G DISCS HE OBSE RVE D A T M r. Tolson...-----— M r. K. A . Tam m ----- M r. Clegs................. M r. Glnvin......-"“Sb M r. Ladd.. |r M r. N ichola.............. M r. Rosen................ M r. Traoy................ M r. E gan................... M r. Gurnea .........— M r. Harbo............•• M r. M ohr................. M r. Pennington....... M r. Quinn T>UM a—• M r. N eaec $-13-47 8-08 PM HHS URGE N T LE ON N KIN S, CHIE F OF POLICE , PORTLA N D, STA TE S A BOUT FIVE FIFTE E N PM E LE VE N TH IN STA N T, A N OBJE CT SIM ILA R IN SIZE TO A WE A THE R BA LLOON , WHICH A PPE A RE D TO BE M A DE OF A LUM IN UM OR SOM E OTHE R BRIGHT M E TA L, TRA VE LIN G RA PIDLY N ORTHWE ST TO SOUTHE A ST OVE R PORTLA N D A T A N E STIM A TE D TE N THOUSA N D FE E T. OBJE CT VE E RE D TO SOUTH A N D DISA PPE A RA D IN THE DISTA N CE IN A PPROXIM A TE LY ON E M IN UTE A LSO OBSE RVE D BY PA TROLM A N . CA R, A N D POSSIBLY BY OTHE R PORTLA N D DRIVE R OP JE N KIN S POLICE OFFICE RS. SM A LL A RTICLE A PPE A RE D IN PORTLA N D N E WSPA PE R, THE ORE GON IA N , CON CE RN IN G THIS ON TWE LFTH IN STA N T IN VE STIGA TION BE IN G CON DUCTE D BOB'BITT E N D 1210A M OK FBI .WA 630CU W47 19 1947 zi Ar/1 & ■ ^iSon k “y*./Cf received ?I5 10 03 RM’1 INTERNAL securiv -r iT. OF HI aoiisnr jo-id3QTaj ZMffM tW imn ajurBi 03ai33m 4-15 PM CLC M r. TrM F . . TE LE TYPE ' ; M r. Ginv* .lr. Uxi4 M r. N ichola FBI N ORFOLK 9-15-47 M r. iksrrtfa I M r. Harbo M r. M ohr ... M r. Pc null M r. Quinn M r. M ix DIRE CTOR URGE N T FLYIN G DISCS M RS. G. H. STOCKTON , ON E SIX N IN E A VIE W A VE N UE OCE A N VIE W. VA ., RE PORTE D SIGHTIN G FLYIN G DISC A T SHOUN S, TE N N ., SE PTE M ! LA ST. SON -IN -LA W, HU& H-tfE N N IN GS, ON E ON E ON E BE LLGRA VE ,“BKK OCE A N VTW3£3SOC VIE W, CON FIRM S SIGHTIN G OF THIS OBJE CT WHICH HE DE SCRIBE D A S BE IN G SHA PE D LIKE FOOTBA LL, M OVIN G IN A T CON STA N T A LTITUDE OF A PPROXIM A TE LY TWO THOUSA N D E N D OVE R E N D IN THE A IR. RA TE OF SPE E D COM PA RA BLE A SOUTHE RLY DIRE CTION FE E T, A N D TURN IN G TO CUB PLA N E JE N N IN GS STA TE S QB^ifiK OBJE CT VISIBLE FOR A PPROXIM A TE LY FIVE M IN IM S A GA IN ST OVE RCA ST SKY. N O DE TA ILS DISCE RN IBLE . JE N N IN GS OXX DOE S N OT BE LIE VE OBJE CT WA S DISC BUT THA T IT M IGHT HA VE BE E N A LOOSE M E TE ROXX M E TE OROLOGICA L E N D RUC ROBE Y 5-17 PM . OK FBI WA BW BA LLOON REC EIVED TELETYPE unit &H 1 5wPH M 7 ^ DEPT. OF JUSTIC E 4 ZM d^S E l X. utsnr jo idaa -$-n ^' tw V 130.11 ♦WS4J-W i^ ., IN ROPLY REFER TO: ^FBIR-CO -ADQUARTERS, ARMY AIR FORCES WASHING TON 5 SEP 1947 Director Federal Bureau of Investigation Department of Justice Washington 25, D. C. Dear Sir: A ttentions Liaison Section In answ er to a verbal request of your M r. S. W. Reynolds, a complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with the characteristics similar to those which have been associated with the Flying Discs. Yours sincerely. GE O. T. SCHULGE N Brigadier General, U.S.A . Deputy> A ss’t. Chief of A ir Staff-2 I STAND ARD FORM Office M emorandum • UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO FROM SUBJE CT: X. G. Fite FLYING DISCS D. M. LAUD DA TE : 9/16/47 cussed Special Agent S. W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section has dis with Lieutenant Colonel George Garrett of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces the possibility that the flying discs or M r. Tolson M r. E . A . Tam m M r. Clegg M r. Glavln M r. Ladd -------- M r. N ichols M r. Rosen M r. Tracy M r. Carson M r. E gan M r. Gurnaa M r. Harbo M r. HendoH M r. Pennington M r. Quinn Tam m " Tele. Room M r. N ease M iss Holm e saucers are in fact a project of the Any Air Forces, It should be noted that Colonel Garrett agreed with this possibility. At that time Mr, Reynolds?' pointed out to Colonel Garrett the possible embarrassing position of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces if it was subsequently ascertained that this was the truth, especially since they had requested the assistance of the Bureau in the optioned matter. Colonel Garrett advised Mr. Reynolds that he would institute a further search, and he has now advised that a letter was addressed by Major General McDonald, Director of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces, to the Research and Development Section of the Air Forces. There is attached hereto a letter addressed to the Director, dated September 5, 1947, from Brigadier General George F. Schnlgen, which states that a complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces have no project with characteristics similar to those which have been associated with the flying discs. RECOMMENDATION; It is recommended that this memorandum be forwarded to the Internal Security Section for their information. Attachment SWRtAJB 5 5 SE P^dW RF i HVi- RECEIVED /ESTIGATIVE DIVISION Sep 23 ^i»p^W RECEIVED ?I7 911 RIH7 INTERNAL SECURITY F. B. I. (?F H'fT" ^ ■^ WuW NTfRNAl SECURE F. 0. I. FBI OEPT OF JUSItO STAND ARD FOf»M NO. 64 Office M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t to Director, FBI date: 9-17-47 fO^^sroi Portland SUBJE CT: RE PORTS OF FLYIN G DISCS SE CURITY M A TTE R - X Refer San Francisco letter dated Septem ber 4, 1947 . FRE D M ^SOHN SON , Globe Hotel, 106 N W. First A venue, Portland, reported w ithout consulting any records that on June 24, 1947 , w hile prospecting at a point in the Cascade M ountains approxim ately five thousand feet from sea level, during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro­ ceeding in a southeasterly direction. Im m ediately upon sighting this object he placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approxim ately forty-five to sixty seconds. He rem arked that it is possible for him to pick up an object at a distance of ten m iles w ith his telescope. A t the tim e the disc w as sighted by M r. JOHN SON it w as banking in the sun, and he observed five or six sim ilar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that they did not fly in any particular form ation and that he w ould estim ate their height to be about one thousand feet from w here he w as standing. He said the object w as about thirty feet in diam eter.and appeared to have a tail. It m ade no noise. A ccording to JOHN SON he rem ained in the vicinity of the Cascades for several, days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in the local paper w hich stated in effect that a m an in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a sim ilar object but that authorities had disclaim ed any know ledge of such an object. He said he com m unicated w ith the A rm y for the sole purpose of attem pt­ ing to add credence to the story furnished by the m an in Boise. JOHN SON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects on June 24, 1947 he had in his possession a com bination com pass and w atch. He noted particularly that im m ediately before he sighted the disc the com pass acted very peculiar, the hand w aving from one side to the other, but that this condition corrected itself im m ediately after the discs had passed out of sight. Inform ant appeared to be a very reliable individual w ho advised that he had been a prospector in the states of M ontana, Washington, and Oregon for the past forty years. 5 5 SE P 3O< E . G. FITCH TO D. M . LA DD FROM SUBJE CT: FLYIN G DISCS cussing Colonel Forney indicated RECORDED SWR:LL it is above w hich ^^ffice M emorandum • un ited states govern m en t E : A u ST^f-ARD FORM XO. 64 Special A gent S. W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section, w hile dis- the above captioned phenom ena w ith Lieutenant ColonsT^Carrett of the A ir Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that flying [discs w ere, in fact, a very highly classified experim ent of the A m y or N ichols M r. Rosen M r. Tracy M r. Carson M r. E gan M r. Gurnea M r. Harbo M r. Hendon M r. Pennington M r. Quinn Taint Tele. Room M r. N ease M iss Holm es M las Gandy N avy. M r. Reynolds w as very m uch surprised w hen Colonel Garrett not onljiy 'agreed that this w as a possibility, but confidentially stated it w as his* personal opinion that such w as a probability. Colonel Garrett indicated confidentially that a M r ^Carroll, w ho is a scientist attached to the A ir Forces Intelligence, w as of the sam e opinion. fit Colonel Garrett stated that he based his assum ption on the follow ing: He pointed out that w hen flying objects w ere reported seen over Sw eden, the "high brass" of the War Departm ent exerted trem endous pressure on the A ir Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect inform ation in an effort to identify these sightings. Colonel Garrett stated that, contrast to this, w e have reported sightings of unknow n objects over the United States, and the "high brass" appeared to be totally unconcerned. He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these objects to express no concern. Colonel Garrett pointed out further that the objects in question have been seen by m any individuals w ho a re w hat he term s "trained observers," such as airplane pilots. He indicated also that several of the individuals are reliable m em bers of the com m unity. He stated his conclusion that these individuals saw som ething. He stated the has led him to com e to the conclusion that there w ere objects seen som ebody in the Governm ent know s all about. M r. Reynolds pointed out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact [experim entations are being conducted by the United States Governm ent, then it does not appear reasonable to request the FBI to spend m oney and precious tim e conducting inquiries w ith respect to this m atter. Colonel Garrett stated that he agreed w ith M r. Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it w ould be extrem ely em barrassing to the A ir Forces Intelligence if it later is learned I that these flying discs are, in fact, an experim ent of the United States I Governm ent. M r. Reynolds subsequently discussed this m atter w ith Colonel L. R, Forney of the Intelligence Division of the War Departm ent. Colonel Fom ey stated that he had discussed the m atter previously w ith General Cham berlin. to M r. Reynolds that he has the assurance of General 1SE P291§® COPIE S 27 0 destroy ed N OV 1964 RECEIVED-TAMM FBI U.S. DEPT. Or JUSTICE Aug 21 2 55 PH W ^ ■ oV i'YSA fttjXwfffr'<**“ tH Ttv .tvt rnr . 1 • »« t . '•. M E M ORA N DUM FOR M R. LA DD Cham berlin and General Todd that the A m y is conducting no experim entations w ith anything w hich could possibly be m istaken for a flying disc. Colonel Garrett of the A ir Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted M r. Reynolds and indicated that he had discussed this m atter w ith General Schulgen of the A rm y A ir Forces. General Schulgen had previously assured both M r. Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his know ledge and in­ form ation no experim ents w ere being undertaken by the Governm ent w hich could be m istaken for flying discs. Colonel Garrett indicated to M r. Reynolds that he had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had m entioned the possibility of an em barrassing situation arising betw een the A ir Forces Intelligence and the FBI. General Schulgen agreed w ith Colonel Garrett that a m em orandum w ould be prepared for the signature of General M cDonald, A 2, to General LeM ay, w ho is in charge of Research and Developm ent in the A ir Corps. Colonel Garrett indicated that this m em orandum w ill set forth the characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals. The m em orandum w ill then request General LeM ay to indicate w hether or not any experim ents are being undertaken by the A ir Forces w hich could possibly be connected w ith any of the observed phenom ena. Colonel Garrett stated that w hen a reply is received from General LeM ay, a com m unication w ill be addressed to the Bureau. M r. Reynolds w ill follow this m atter closely w ith Colonel Garrett and General Schulgen so that the Bureau w ill be prom ptly advised of all inform ation regarding the flying discs, especially any inform ation indicating that they are, in fact, an experim ent of som e Governm ental agency. - 2 - STAND ARD UN ITE D STA IN S GOVE RN M E N T TO D. M . LA DD DA TE : FROM J. P. COYN E SUBJE CT: FLYIN G SA UCE RS FLYIN GDISCS Reference is m ade to the m em orandum to you from the Liaison Section dated July 21, 1947 , setting forth a request from Colonel Golbranson of the Intelligence Division of the War Departm ent for the Bureau to conduct investigation to determ ine the origin of the flying discs. it. Ur. M r. M r. Tele. Room M r. N ease M iss Holm es M iss Gandy * OBSE RVA TION S: It is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers and flying discs is very sim ilar to the situation w hich w as previously encountered ty the Bureau during the past w ar in handling com plaints arising out of the sighting of Japanese baloons. You w ill recall that at the inception of these com plaints the Bureau conducted considerable investigation and located num erous baloons as a cooperative m easure for the A rny and that after considerable w ork had been done, the A m y then inform ed that these w ere m ilitary w eapons and that they w ould take over the handling of these com pletely. This they did and in an extrem ely short tim e issued a big press release as to the splendid w ork of the A rny in locating these Japanese baloons. From the inform ation available thus / far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a i k [m ilitary w eapon. Certainly the Bureau has no w ay to determ ine w hat experim ents/ J the A rny and N avy are conducting and w hether such m ight be arising out of ' \ experim ents being conducted by them nor do w e have any w ay of determ ining how fl far the Russians have progressed in certain experim ents and w hether such m ight]! be the results of experim ents by the Russian A rny. It short, it w ould certainly/ appear that this is a m ilitary situation and should be handled strictly ty m ilitary authorities. K ' In this connection it m ight be case arose out of the fact that tw o A rny from an interview of tw o individuals w ho pointed out that our present Portland Intelligence officers w ere returning reportedly had seen flying discs. If he A rny Intelligence officers are handling som e of these interview s, it is be- .ieved that they should be handling all of these interview s, and it is not /believed that the Bureau should be expending its precious m anpow er on these com ­ plaints w hich thus far have no connection w ith our Russian espionage program . The m ilitary authorities certainly are better equipped to know w hat they are looking for than w e are and have m ore facilities for handling any m aterial w hich it is necessary to exam ine as a result of its being reported as a rem nant of a /flying disc. It is believed that the Bureau is m erely playing bird-dog for the A rm y by using our m anpow er to run out these com plaints on flying discs. A CTION S In view of the recent Bureau Bulletin #42 dated a 34 bbow dbb ^^^^-^ July 19^4 how ever, there is attached a letter to the Chicago Office asking thatS^e^eoaduc^Tthe requested investigation. A ttachm ent K\1 9»7r 1HTEmisec^ V . c. ’ • • RECEIVED :p25 2 57 PM’ INTERNAL SECURE F. B. I. - -?r or n<- -‘ Sincerely yours RGFsvj :cjnw •newer your question* but I appreciate your interest in writing to me in this regard. October 3* 1947 lira. Joseph H. Ryan Bieber* California In this that in view of a unable to furnish by this Bureau to For this reason I connection* you are advised long established policy I am the results of investigations other than Governmental sources regret that I am unable to John Edgar Hoover Director Receipt is acknowledged of your letter dated September 19* 1947* requesting information concerning the origin of the "Flying Saucer ^gf.^ COMMU NICATIONS SECTION WAILED 12 * OC T 4 1947 p.M . . Tolson_________ . E . A . Tanin : ci^nzz^"kM " ^ ’’•’SSSSM v : H SoiA^M ’WEtfr oiwicE . Rogen ****am ^^«-1 • Tracy . Gurnea . Harbo__________ . M ohr_____________ . Pennington . Quinn Tanm Tele. Room _________ M r. N ease M iss Gandy 555555 555555515 J L /Zy™ J ^l Bieber. California RECORDED rtutHAL BU REAU OF INVESTIGATION U .S. OEPABTU ENTOF JU STICE COMMU TATION SECTION AUG 1947 TELETYPE FBI, SE A TTLE 8-74 7 5-20 PM PST RH | M r. Tbleon --/- I M r. E . A . Tam m ..... I M r. Clegg / M r. Glavin . .J........ M r. Ladd .................- /M r. N ichola ....... — M r. Robo...............— M r. Tracy................. M r. E gan.................. M r. Gurnee.............. M r. Karbo............... M r. M ohr ................. M r. Penr/ngtcn..... M r. Quinn 1 m um — M r. N anae IRE CTOR A N D /’‘^FLYIN G DISKS SA C, CHICA GO A N D BUTTE URGE N T DA HL, TA COM A ^ W D ASM DA SH X. RE M YTE L A UGUST SIX, LA ST CA PTION E D FLYIN G DISKS. HA R DA HL A N D FRE D CHRISM A N , TA COM A , IN SIGN E D STA TE M E N T IN STA N T DA TE STA TE THA T IN E A RLY PA RT OF JUN E , LA ST, THE /PICKE D UP SOM E STRA N GE ROCK FORM A TION S FROM A GRA VE L PIT, M A URI ISLA N D, WA SHIN GTON A CIGA R BOX OF THE SE ROCK FORM A TION S THE Y SE N T TO RA WA VE N TURE M A GA ZIN E IN E VA N STON , ILLIN OIS. THE Y STA TE PLA M E R IS THE Y STA TE E DITOR OF A LSO E DITOR OF FA N TA SY M A GA ZIN E , CHICA GO, ILLIN OIS. THE Y STA TE THE Y RE QUE STE D PA LM E R ON LY TO M A KE A CHE M ICA L A N A LYSIS OF THE ROCK FORM A TION DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE PA LM E R LA TE R WROTE A SKIN G FOR A DDITION A L SA M PLE S STA TIN G HE HA D BE E N UN A BLE TO A N A LYZE THE M A TE RIA L. DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE PA LM E R, A FE W DA YS A FTE R THE FLYIN G DISK STORIE S STA RTE D THE LA TTE R PA RT OF JUN E , LA ST, CON TA CTE D THE M BY PHON E A T TA COM A , WA SHIN GTON SA YIN G HE WOULD PA Y FOR A N E XCLUSIVE STORY IF THE M A TE RIA L WHICH THE Y HA D SE N T HIM WA S FRA GM E N TS OF A FLYIN G DISK. DA HL STA TE S HE WROTE PA LM E R A LE TTE R IN WHICH HE STA TE D THE M A TE , OF A FLYIN SK. DA HL A N D CHRISM A N A DM IT THIS STA TE M E N T LSE . DA CHRISM A N STA TE THE Y WE RE CA LLE D BY KE N N E T' IDA HO TO. M E E T WITH HIM A T THE WHITHROP HOTE L, TA COM , JULY THIRTYFIRST, LA ST IN A RM Y IN TE LLIGE N CE OFFICE RS FROM RECEPS- RECEiVED-TAPM FBI U.S. DEPT. Dr JUSTICE Aug 8 9 56 AH ’47 >11 2 36?r internal securp •• -r nr •• : 6 8 Ot- ^ PA GE TWO HA M ILTON FIE LD, CA LIFORN IA , A N D CA PTA IN E M IL H^SM ITH OF UN ITE D A IR LIN E S, SE A TTLE , WA SHIN GTON TO A TTE N D THE M E E TIN G. DA HL A N D CHRISM A N CLA IM THE Y TOLD THE IN TE LLIGE N CE OFFICE RS, CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D LIE UTE N ­ A N T BROWN , A S WE LL A S KE N N E TH A RN OLD A N D E M I^SM ITH E XA CTLY HOW THE Y GOT THE ROCK FORM A TION S A N D THA T THE Y HA D N O CON N E CTION WITH A N Y FLYIN G DISK DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE THE Y FURN ISHE D SOM E OF THE ROCK FORM A TION TO THE IN TE LLIGE N T OFICE RS A S SA M PLE S. CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D LIE UTE A N T BROWN LE FT TA COM A , WA SHIN GTON IN A B TWE N TY FIVE TO RE TURN TO HA M ILTON FIE LD, CA LIFORN IA A BOUT TWO THIRTY A . M . A UGUST ON E , LA ST, A N D WE RE KILLE D WHE N THE IR PLA N E CRA SHE D A T KE LSO, WA SHIN GTON , A FTE R THE LE FT E N GIN E BURN E D OUT A N E XHA UST STA CK WHICH IN TURN CA UGHT THE LE FT WIN G ON FIRE A N D IT BROKE OFF. THE CRE W CHIE F A N D E A CH OFFICE R PA RA CHUTE D TO SA FE TY. E RN IE *VOTE L, A SSOCIA TE D PRE SS WIRE M A N , TA COM A , A DVISE D THA T TWO OR THRE E DA YS A FTE R THE FLYIN G DISK STORIE S STA RTE D, HE CON TA CTE D DA HL TO CHE CK 0A STORY THE SE A TTLE POST IN TE LLIGE N CE R HA D GOTE M FRM THE FIRE CHIE F A T HA RBOR, WA SHIN GTON , TO THE E FFE CT THA T DA HL HA D SOM E FLYIN G DISK FRA GM E N TS. A T THIS TIM E DA HL A DM ITTE D TO VOGE L THE E N TIRE STORE WA S FA LSE . DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE A RN OLD WA S PA ID BY RA Y PA LM E R OF THE PFA N TA SY M A GA ZIN E A N D POSSIBLY THE BOISE STA TE M A N - N E WSPA ^R, TO COM E TO TA COM A , WA SHIN GTON A N D OBTA IN A STORY FROM ..THE M RE GA RDIN G THE FLYIN G DISK FRA GM E N TS. THE Y FURTHE R STA TE THA T E M IL H. SM ITH HA D A PA GE THRE E FRIE N D ON THE CHICA GO TIM E S A N D WA S POSSIBLY SE LLIN G THE STORY TO CHICA GO TIM E S THROUGH THIS FRIE N D. A CHE CK OF THE /oRDS A T THE WITHROP HOTE L, TA COM A WHE RE A RN OLD HA D HIS ROOM , RE FLE CT THA T ON JULY THIRTY FIRST, LA ST, A RN OLD CA LLE D PA LM E R A T A . N . FIVE TWO N A UGHT N A UGT, E VA N STON , ILLIN OIS, COLLE CT, A N D A LSO CA LLE D N A UGHT ON E N A UGHT N IN E J A T BOISE , IDA HO, COLLE CT. ON A UGUST ON E , LA ST, A RN OLD CA LLE D PA LM E R A T DE A RBORN FIVE TWO N A UGHT N A UGHT CHICA GO, COLLE CT, A N D E M IL SM ITH CA LLE D BLA N K^ODDY A T DE A RBORN TWO THRE E TWO THRE E . ON .JULY THIRTY FIRST A N D A UGUST ON E , LA ST, A TOTA L OF FIVE A N ON YM OUS CA LLS WE RE RE CE IVE D BY A TA COM A TIM E S RE PORTE R A N D THE UN ITE D PRE SS WIRE M A N A T TA CM A , GIVIN G IN - FORM A TION RE GA RDIN G THE M E E TIN G A T THE WIN THROP HOTE L OVE R THE DISK FRA GM E N TS A N D STA TIN G THA T THE B TWE N TY FIVE HA D BE E N SHOT DOWN OR SA BOTA GE D WHICH KILLE D CA PTA UKA VIDSON A N D LIE UTE A N ^BROWN IN FE RRIN G THA T THIS WA S DON E BE CA USE THE IN TE LLIGE N E OFFICE RS WE RE CA RRYIN G DISK A FRA GM E N TS IN THE IR PLA N E . DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE THE SE CA LLS COULD ON LY HA VE COM E FROM THE M SE LVE S, SM ITH OR A RN OD, A N D DE N Y THA T THE Y M A DE THE CA LLS. N O RE CORD OF THE CA LLS A S HA VIN G BE E N M A DE FROM A RN OLD-S ROOM IN THE WIN THROP HOTE L CA N BE LOCA TE D. DA HL A N D CHRISM A N A RE E VA SIVE A S TO JUST WHA T IN FORM A TION THE Y DID FURN ISH BY PHON E OR LE TTE R TO RA Y PA LM E R. E RN IE VOGE L, UN ITE D PRE SS WIRE M A N , TA COM A , WA SHIN GTON , STA TE IT A PPE A RS THE BOISE STA TE M A N -S PA PE R A N D KE N N E TH A RN OLD HA VE PA GE FOUR BE E N PUSHIN G THE PUBLICITY ON THE FLYIN G DISK STORIE S. VOGE L STA TE S THA T A RN OLD WA S E ITHE R THE FIRST OR ON E OF THE FIRST TO CLA IM HE HA D SE E N FLYIN G DISKS. DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STA TE THA T A RN OLD A DM ITTE D RE ­ CE IVIN G M ON E Y FROM RA Y PA LM E R to COM E TO TA COM A TO CHE CK T^ DISK STORY. UN LE SS A DVISE D TO THE CON TRA RY BY THE BURE A U, THE BUTTE OFFICE A T BOISE , IDA HO, WILL OBTA IN A LL IN FORM A TION RE GA RDIN G THE CON N E CTION BE TWE E N THE BOISE STA TE M A N -S PA PE R A N D KE N N N E TH A RN OLD. WILL IN TE RVIE W KE N N E TH A RN OLD, ROUTE ON E , M OUN TA IN VIE W DRIVE , BOISE FOR WHA T IN FORM TICK HE HA S A S TO THE A BOVE FA CTS A N D WHA T IN FORA TION HE FURN ISHE D RA Y PA LM E R A N D THE BOISE STA TE M A N RE GA RDIN G THE TA COM A M E E TIN G A N D THE SA BOTA GE OF THE B TWE N TYFIVE . THE CHICA GO OFFICE A T CHICA GO WILL IN TE RVIE W RA Y PA LM E R, E DITOR OF FRA N TA SY M A GA ZIN E , RE GA RDIN G HIS CON N E CTION S WITH DA HL A N D CHRISM A N A N D A RN OLD A N D WHA T IN FORM A TION E A CH FURN ISHE D TO HIM . WILL A LSO A TTE M PT TO A SCE RTA IN WHA T IN FORM A TION CA PTA IN E M IL H. SM ITH FURN ISHE D THE CHICA GO TIM E S. THE SE A TTLE OFFICE A T SE A TTLE WILL IN TE RVIE W E M IL H. SM ITH, THRE E N A UGHT TWO SE VE N WE ST LA URE LHURST DRIVE A LON G THE SE SA M E LIN E S. WILL A LSO A SCE RTA IN WHA T IN FORM A TION THE FIRE CHIE F A TWWt W HA RBOR, WA SHIN GTON OTA IN E D FROM DA HL A N D CHRISM A N . 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Of JUSTIC E I '8 J Alimas 1VN831NI KHd^E /Z^ O9AI333H JU STICE l olsnn , w IE LE TYPE 05 PM PSTFBI SE A TTLE 8-12-47 SA CS CHICA GO A N D BUTTE GE N T.RE CTOR A N D HA ROLD RE M YTE L A UGUST SE VE N LA ST E M ILSM DA SH X JULY THIRTYON E TO A UGUST THIRDA N D KE N N E SM ITH KA S RE CE IVE D PRE VIOUS PUBLICITY FOR HA VIN G SE E N FLYIN GLA ST DISCS OR SIM ILA R OBJE CTS ON JULY FOURTH LA ST IN COM PA N Y WITH HIS CO- FROM SE A TTLE CA LL FROMIN RE SPON SE TO TE LE PHON ETHIRTYON E LA ST CLA IM S HE HA D PRE VIOUSLY M E T A RN OLDKE N N E TH A RN OLD A T ON JULY FIFTH LA ST IN OFFICE S OFTHE FIRST TIM EON TWO OCCA SION S SE A TTLE POST- IN TE LLIGE N CE R WHE RE BOTH WE RE IN TE RVIE WE E RE FLYIN G DISCS THIS LA TTE R OCCA SION A RE PORTE R WK9f N O PRE VIOUS ON N IGHT OF ' CA PTA IN DA VIDSON A N D BROWN A BOX OFGA VE THE A LLE GE D FRA GM E N TS WHICH THE IR FA TA L FLIGHT SM ITH LDCRA SH THE DA HL- £ M ON E Y WHICHCHRISM A N STCRY A N D inform ation on the docum ent. A N D ON SE CON D OCCA SION IN BOISE IDA HO A BOUT THRE ETHE Y HA D SE E N ON THURSDA Y JULY ILLIN OISTURE PRE SS IN E VA N STON A N D LIE UTE N A N TCA PTA IN DA VIDSON PILOT TO THIS IN TE RVIE W CHRISM A N BOTH HA VE SUBSE QUE N TLY A DM ITTE D TO BE FA LSE WA S TOLD TO SM ITH A RN OLD IN TE RVIE WE D RE A SSOCIA TION S WITHPILOT FRE D CHRISM A NHA ROLD A DA HL SM ITHTA COM A SM ITH CLA IM S A RM Y IN TE LLIGE N CE OFFICE RS A N D BROUN BY CHRISM A N A N D DA HL SUBSE QUE ST 'OLD IN TA COM A FROMUN WA S PA SSIN G THROUGH ON ROUTIN E FLIGHTSM ITH ONWE E KS A GO WHILE HE A CQUA IN TA N CE WITH DA HL OR CHRISM A N SM ITH RE LA TE S THA T HRISM A N A N DSIGHTE D BY FRE JULY THIRTY ON E LA ST IN TA COM A WN SM ITH RE LA TE S THA T HE WE N T TO TA COM ABOISE IDA HO WN M r. E gan M r. Gurnea . KL3 M r. M ohr M r. Pennington . . M r. Quinn Tam ir M r. Clcgc I M r. Glavfa Mr. La< d * This im age contains all the Flyin g discs Mr. Nu bolR I M r. Roaea M r. Traoy A HL, TA COM A , WM . ^RlTH, UN ITE D A IRLIN E S RA LPH—STE VE N S, DURIN G R0UT3N E UN ITE D A IRLIN E S FLIGHT OUT OF A N D LIE UTE N A N TW©WN , —STON SON OF THE IDA HO STA TE SM A N N E WSPA PE R THE DA HL A N D CHRISM A N STORY, WHICH A T* ON LA ST, ‘A FTE R LE A RN IN G OF THE A N D DE A TH^OF DA VIDSON A N D BROWN ,’LLE D RA YM ON D..PA LM E R, E DITOR OF Til \N D WA S TOLD BY PA LM E R TO DISCON TIN UE HIS IN VE STIGA TIO *' JO 4 I ’8 ’J‘iw w s iw a3JH: ‘^«£ ^a & W "6 £1^ ^sy^ '“T°^l: PA GE TWO ft * i rKim % SM ITH RE LA TE S ThW HE A N D A RN OLD M A DE SUBSE OTE ST A TTE M PTS TO GO OUT TO M A URI ISLA N D WITH CRISM A N A N D DA HL ON FRIDA Y, SA TURDA Y A N D SUN DA Y, A UGUST FIRST, SE CON D A N D THIRD, BUT WE RE PUT OFF BY CHRISM A N .^ DA HL FOR VA RIOUS RE A SON S, SM ITH STA TE S THA T RE PORTE R^N TZ OF TA COM A TIM E S A N tF^GRE LLO OF UN ITE D PRE SS OFFICE TA COM A IN FORM E D HIM A N D A RN OLD OF THE A N ON YM OUS PHON E CA LLS , A N D FROM A CCCURA CY OF THE IN FO TRA N SM ITTE D BY THE SE A N ON YM OUS CA LLS, SM ITH BE LIE VE S THE Y WE RE M A DE BY E ITHE R DA HL OR CHRISM A N . S^E TH A DM ITS CA LLIN G HIS PE RSON A L FRIE N D M A URICM ^DY, A VIA TION E DITOR OF CHICA GO TIM E S, ON FRIDA Y, A UGUST FIRST LA ST, TO IN FORM ] HIM OR THE TA COM A IN CIDE N T A S PE R A PRE VIOUS A GRE E M E N T BE TWE E N THE M THA T SM ITH WOULD LE T RODDY IN ON A N Y FLYIN G DISC STORIE S WHICH HE M IGHT RUN IN TO. SM IT? A LSO A DM ITS THA T HE TOLD RE PORTE R JOHN SON OF IDA HO STA TE SM A N IN TE LE PHON E CON VE RSA TION SA TURDA Y N IGHT, A UGUST SE CON D LA ST, THA T CA PTA jV DA VIDSON A N D LIE UTE N A N T BROWN WE RE CA RRYIN G FRA GM E N TS WITH THE M ON THE IR FA TA L FLIGHT. SM ITH SA YS THA T DA HL TOLD HIM ON SA TURDA Y N ITE A UGUA T j SE CON D LA ST THA T HE , DA HL, IF CON TA CTE D BY THE A RM Y OR OTHE R A UTHORITIE S J !WA S GOIN G TO SA Y THA T THE E N TRRE STORY WA S A HOA X. SM ITH STA TE S THA T I HE TOLD HIS COM PLE TE STORY TO M A JOR SA N DE RS OF M CCORD FIE LD, TA COM A , ON I SUN DA Y W M ORN IN G , A UGUST THIRD « LA ST, A N D THA T A RN OLD LE FT TA COM A . ® UN LE SS A DVISE D TO CON TRA RY, LA N TZ A N D M ORE LLO WHO A RE BOTH TA COM A N E WSPA PE RM E N M E N TION E D A BOVE , WILL N OT BE CON TA CTE D FOR VE RIFICA TION OF 9M K SM ITHS STORY A BOVE . UN A BLE TO LOCA TE FIRE CHIE F OF HA RBOR, WN .W to Verify in form ation «m ec received by him from dahl an d chrism an. 1 SIN CE THIS STORY; ORIGIW^D IN ..SE A TTLE PH’O7 ; H j I OB . c '» E [; -1/.: . 8 r j.‘. OEPi. Of JUSTK $rp 10 loeP^ » T J’ siiisnr ss it's't &#^ZI O H’S IN REPLY. PLEASE REFER TO FILE NO_________________________ Jfrheral Bureau of Inuesftgaftmt ISniteh States Department at Sustice N ew York, N . Y. Septem ber 4, 1947 Director, FBI A ttention: FBI Laboratory Re: M rs. A Inform ant Dear Sir s Reference is m ade to Bureau letter dated July 21, 1947x addressed to M rs. A . G. SA RBA N IS, 66 N otre Dam e A venue, Hicksville, Long "Island, N ew York, a copy of w hich w as sent to the N ew York Office. M rs. SA RBA N IS w as interview ed by Special A gent William A . Johnson on A ugust 12, 1947 , at w hich tim e she advised that this coded m essage had appeared in "N ew sday," the local new spaper of N assau and Suffolk County, Long Island, N ew York. She stated that the m essage had appeared in the "County Irritant," a feature of this paper, and had been signed "Radio Ham ." M r. JA CK A LTSCHUL, City E ditor of "N ew sday," Hem pstead, N ew York, w as interview ed and advised that this article had been sent to the new spaper by letter w hich w as signed "Radio Ham ," and explained that he had no w ay of determ ining the identity of the w riter. M r. A LTSCHUL stated that it w as his opinion that the code had been m ade up by som e local "screw ball" w ho had been affected by all of^the new spaper publicity that had been given at that tim e to the story abou^flying discs. There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of "N ew sday" concerning this coded m essage, w hich m ight be of interest in this m atter. to establish the identity of the person w ho signed him self "Radio Ham ." Unless advised to the contrary, no further effort is being m ade ? /& //? HhiAu COU NTS IRRITANT from our M ail Box «===■=■::■== Com ing Uis Way M errick—Out all day yesterday looking for a house to rent, but no luck. I got so disgusted I ended up in a tavern and got lit. When I got hom e and w ent in the house I SA W FLYIN G SA UCE RS IN A IR! —N o Foolin. Garbles Westbury—Bellm ore Radio Ham ’s m essage seem s to be from som e gentlem an occupying an Olym pian height. A s w ith m any of these erudite souls, the sender can­ not resist including a few "garbles” in his code. Or is our Ham guilty? Here is your m essage: TIRE D OF HUM A N N ON SE N SE WON T A WA IT A TOM IC WA R DISTURB­ IN G SOLA R SYSTE M SO SE N T FLYIN G DISKS A N D WILL SE T UP WORLD UN DE R M A RTIA N S LA TE THIS YE A R. —Sim ple transposition. Hope all your readers are appropriately w arned. —Stephen M . Schuster. (Other ungarblers got “outlaw ” (A TLA W) instead of “aw ait,” iisrupting” g.” M iss Washington instead of "disturb- Rita Flood of Pert expects the w o Id ■der to be set up under “m n- ter.” Is Radio Ham satisfied! — E d:) becobded STAND ARD FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T FROM W. V. Cie SUBJE CT: M rs. A M r. J. P. Coy Sarbanis DA TE : 9/17/h7 Informant letter was received from the July 10, 13h7» in which she inclosed a newspaper clipping signed "Radio Ham." This news­ paper clipping contained a coded message which M rs. Sarbanis above You will recall that a captioned individual dated M r. Tolson__________ M r. E . A . Tam M r. Clegg____________ M r. GlavIn__________ M r. Ladd_____________ M r. N ichols M r. Rosen____________ M r. Tracy____ M r. Carson__________ M r. E gan_____________ M r. Gurnea M r. E arbo M r. M ohr f M r. Pennington M r. Quinn Tam Tele. Room M r. N ease M iss HolnO M iss Gandy decoded. The FBI Laboratory checked M rs. Sarbanis' decoding of this message and advised that it was substantially correct Laboratory’s decoding of the message is being set forth below: The "TIRED OF HUM AN NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATOM IC WAR D ISRUPTING ORD ER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT^FLYING D ISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORD ER UND ER M ARTIANS HATE THIS YEAR." The New York Office was asked to interview M rs. Sarbanis to determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained. They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in an effort to ascertain the identity of the person who sent in the coded message, in order that the person might be interviewed for information co ncerning the alleged receipt of the coded message. By letter dated September fc, 19h7> the ^GW York Office advised that they had ascertained from M rs. Sarbanis that the coded message had appeared in "Newsday, " the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this news­ paper stated that the original had been signed only "Radio Ham" and knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the City Editor's opinion that the code had been made up by some local "screwball" ‘who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity that had been given to stories concerning "flying discs.” The FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC their amateur records by a geographical breakdown as well maintains as by call letters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all amateurs in the Bellmore, Long Island, New York Section in the event it is desired that another attempt be made to identify the person who sent this coded message to the ''Newsday. r . >1 (Q(J further action be taken inRECOM M END ATION: It is recommended th connection with this matter in view'tyf the opinion expressed by the City Editor of the "Newsday" that the letter redeive&^by hjim signed "Radio Ham" was from some local "sc ^> SFP2s..„ ^^- \tCENE' •Wf'A. 48MAr0R s.DFPT of JUSTICE .A • ^CttlVF', F B^IIT X • 4 Standard form no. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO : j Director, FBI - Attention: Assistant DATE: July 28, 1947 Praetor D« M. LADD FROM : SAC, San Francisco V kT ) SUBJE CT: ^FLYING DISCS There is transmitted herewith for the information of the Bureau a report received from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD L. SPRINGER, A-2, Hamilton Field, California, containing the results of an investigation by his office concerning the reported sighting of flying discs. In addition to containing the detailed descriptions of what was allegedly seen by several persons, the Bureau’s attention is particularly called to the first memorandum setting forth the notes of Agent FRANK M. BROWN, CIC, Fourth Air Force, concerning an interview he had with Mr. KENNETH (ARNOLD, Box 387, Boise, Idaho, who reported that on July 12, 1947 he had seen {nine strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington State. It will be noted that CIC Agent BROW reports that "Mr. ARNOLD is very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the United States Army Air Forces and the FBI for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner." The thought has occurred to ma that the Bureau might desire to have an agent of the Butte Office contact Mr# ARNOLD and explain to him our lack of jurisdiction in such matters HMK jamb Enclosure DE CLA SSIFIE D 0^-37 34 Sf.^j -47 €eMPw»m*fr C OVERING C I-Si TH A IR FORCE J^m i 1 ton._Fie I d..C ® 1 i£prDi® Title Flying Discs. File N o. .P?.?.?. .5, JD_.(4AF-12O8-I) D ate In vestigation m ade at ..P.® lm _. Springs ^.. C alAf_•_,...B.QAs_e.,_. Idahp^^and.H am ilton Fields C alifornia. C on trollin g office ..Air..J?efen.se. C cm nuand. Period covered I)*pro..lQ.-.^l--4/L.t£..18..-Jj^ _________ C ase classification _.Incident........................................................ Status of case______Pending------------------------------------------------- RE A SON FOR IN VE STIGA TION : Investigation initiated at the request of Headquarters Air Defense Command reference letter Headquarters Air Defense Command, dated 7 July 47, File D333.5 ID, subjects Investigation of Flying Discs. SYNOPSIS: Flying-Oisos first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Mt. Rainier, Wash., by Kenneth M.yArnold (incl 1, Exhibit A) Unidentified object reported 9 July 1947 at approximately 1277 near Boise, Idaho by David N.\ Johnson, Aviation Editor, Idaho Daily Statesman, (incl 2, Exhibit B) Unidentified objects reported by Capt. S. J^Smith, United Air Lines Pilot, 4 July 1947, eight minutes out of Boise, Idaho, (incl 3 MOIC, Incl 7 News Clippings dated 5 July 1947) Record check of law enforcement agencies, public utilities, and local residences revealed no record of Richard\Rankin in Palm Springs, (incl 4) Unidentified objects reported 8 July 1947 at 1245, traveling northeast over Hamilton Field by S/Sgt Edward RA Baker, (Incl 5, Exhibit I) Unidentified objects reported over Grand Canyon, Arizona, 0910 MST by Lt. W. G. (McGinty, USK (incl 6) and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt. S. 3^ Armstrong, Hq Tenth Air Force, Brooks Field, Texas, (incl 6). ' Extent of publicity in local area indicated by press clippings, (incl 7) D istribution C opies A pproved: 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: !• On 12 July 1947, Mr. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho, was interviewed in regard to the report by Mr. Arnold that he saw 9 strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily agreed to give the interviewer a written report of exactly what he had seen on the above mentioned date. The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to this report as Exhibit A, AGENT’S NOTES: Mr. Arnold is a man of 32 years of age, being married and the father of two children. He is well thought of in the community in which he lives, being very much the family man and from all appearances a very good provider for his family. Hr. Arnold has recently purchased a home on the outskirts of Boise, recently purchased a $5,000 airplane in which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the attached exhibit. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Arnold actually saw what he stated that he saw. It is difficult to believe that a man of Mr. Arnold’s character and apparent integrity would state that he saw objects and write up a report to the extent that he did if he did not see them. To go further, if Mr. Arnold can write a report of the character that he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he saw, it is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Arnold is in the wrong business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fiction. Mr. Arnold is very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the U.S. Army Air Forces and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner. To put all of the statements made by Mr. Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volume. However, after having checked an aeronautical map of the area over which Mr. Arnold claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements made by Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances involved, speed of the objects, course of the objects and size of the objects, could very possibly bo facts. The distances mentioned by Mr. Arnold in his report are within a short distance of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although Mr. Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Army uses. Mr. Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report on July 25 due to the fact that at every stop on his business routes, large groups of people were waiting to question him as to just what he had seen. Mr. Arnold stated further that if he, at any tine in the future, saw anything in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold directly, ”if I saw a ten story building CON FIDE N T!/-: ’WE N llA I^ Incident 4AF 1208 I flying through the air I would never say a word about it”, due to the fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such an extent that he is practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of the population of « the United States. 1 Incl: Exhibit "A” FRA N K M . BROWN , S/A , CIC 4th A F CON FIDE N T .CON FIDE N TIA xA * , I^SOME LIFT? DATA ON KENNETH ARNOL* ** I was born March 29, 1915 in^Subeka, Minnesota# My father’s name was Edward Erb Arnold; my mother’s maiden name was Bertha E. Barden# I was a resident of Minnesota until I was six years old when my family moved to Scobey, Montana, where they homesteaded. My grandfather, Roland ^# Arnold also homesteaded in Scobey, Montana, and became quite prominent in political circles along with Burton K# Wheeler, the famous Montana senator# I went to grade school and high school at Minot, North Dakota# I entered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout before I was fourteen# My former scout executive was H. H# Prescott, now a regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kansas City, Kansas# As a boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all­ state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakota. I entered the U. S. Olympic trials in fancy diving in 1932; I was a Red Cross Life Saving Examiner during the years of 1932, ’33 and ’34. I taught swimming and diving at scout camps and the municipal pool in Minot, North Dakota# I went to the University of Minnesota, where I swam and did fancy diving under Neils Thorpe, and also played football under Bernie Bierman, but upon entering college I was unable to continue my football career because of an injured knee# My high school football coach was Glenn L. Jarrett, who is now the head football coach of the University of North Dakota. I had little or no finances, and my ambition in furthering my edication in college was through my'athletics. As a boy in Minot, North Dakota, I did a good deal of dog sled racing, placed first with my dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby. In 1938 I went to work for Red Conet, Inc. of Littleton, Colorado, a manufacturer of automatic fire fighting apparatus. In 1939 I was made district manager for them over a part of the western states, and in 1940 I established my own fire control supply known as the Great Western Fire Control Supply. I have been working as an independent fire control engineer since, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of automatic and manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states. My flying experience started as a boy in Minot, North Dakota, where I took my first flying lesson from Earl T. Vance, who was originally from Great Falls, Montana. Due to the high cost at that time, I was unable to continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943. I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of Portland, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my own airplane covering my entire territory with same and flying from forty to one hundred hours per month since. Due to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in my work, in January of this year I purchased a new Callair airplane, which is an airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rough field use# In the type of flying I do, it takes a great deal of practice and judgment to be able to land in most any cow pasture and get out without injuring your ahplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work# To date, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountain meadows, and in over a thousand hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishap. |JN FIDE N TI/± 3Y KENNETH ARNOLD The following story of what I observed over the Cascade mountains, as impossible as it may seem, is positively true. I never asked nor wanted any notoriety for just accidently being in the right spot at the right time to observe what I did* I reported have reported* I don’t think that sensivity of eye sight or judgment On June 24th, Tuesday, 1947, something that I know any pilot would in any way my observation was due to any than what is considered normal for any pilot I had finished my work for the Central Air Service at Chehalis, Washington, and at about two o’clock I-took off from Chehalis, Washington, airport with the intention of going to Yakima, Wash* My trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large marine transport that supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of Mt* Rainier in the state of Washington and to date has never been found. I flew directly toward Mt* Rainier after reaching an altitude of about 9,500 feet, which is the approximate elevation of the high plateau from which Mt* Rainier rises* I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward, searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west down and near the ridge side of the canyon where Ashford, Washington, is located. Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I made a 360 degree turn to the right and above the little city of Mineral, starting again toward Mt* Rainier* I climbed back up to an altitude of approximately 9,200 feet. The air was so smooth that day that it was a real pleasure flying and, as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they are flying at a higher altitude, I trimmed out my airplane in the direction of Yakima, Washington, which was almost directly east of my position and simply sat in my plane ob­ serving the sky and the terrain. There w as a DC-4 to the left and to the rear of m e approxim ately fifteen m iles distance, and I should judge, at 14,000 foot elevation* The sky and air was as clear as crystal* I hadn’t flown more than two or three minutes on my course when a bright flash reflected on my airplane* It startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air­ craft* I looked every place in the sky and couldn’t find where the reflec­ tion had come from until I looked to the left and the north of Mt* Rainier where I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking aircraft flying from north to south at approximately 9,500 feet elevation and going, seemingly, in a definite direction of about 170 degrees* They were approaching Mt. Rainier very rapidly, and I merely assumed they were jet planes. Anyhow, I discovered that this was where the reflec­ tion had come from, as two or three of them every few seconds would dip or change their course slightly, just enough for the sun to strike them at an angle that reflected brightly on my plane* These objects being quite far away, I was unable for a few seconds to make out their shape or their formation* Very shortly they approached Mt* Rainier, and I observed their outline against the snow quite plainly* I thought it was very peculiar that I couldn’t find their tails but assumed they were some type of jet plane. I was determined to clock their speed, as I had two definite points I could clock them by; the air was so clear shape which first that it was vory easy to see objects and determine their approximate and size at almost fifty miles that day* I remember distinctly that my sweep second hand on my eight day clock is located on my instrument panel, read one minute to 3 P.M. as the object of this formation passed the southern edge of Mt* Rainier* I watched these objects with great interest as I had never before observed airplanes southeast elevation a CON FIRE N TlA i^ flying so close to the mountain tops, flying directly south to down the hog’s back of a mountain range. I would estimate their could have varied a thousand feet one way or another up or down, but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they were near the same elevation as I was# They flew like many times I have observed diagonal chain-like line as if they were linked hold a definite direction but rather swerved in peaks. Their speed at the time did not impress geese to fly in a rather together. They seemed to and out of the high mountain me particularly, because I knew that our army and air forces had planes that went very fast. What kept bothering me as I watched them flip and flash in the sun right along their path was the fact that them, and I am sure that any pilot would such a plane. I observed them quite plainly, and I couldn’t make out any tail on justify more than a second look at I estimate my distance from them which was almost at right angles, to. be between twenty to twenty-five miles. I knew they must be very large to observe their shape at that distance, even on as clear a day as it was that Tuesday. In fact I compared a zeus fastener or cowling tool I had in my pocket with - holding it up on them and holding it up on the DC-4 - that I could observe at quite a distance to my left, and they seemed smaller than the DC-4; but, I should judge their span would have been as wide as the furtherest engines on each side of fuselage of the DC-4. Th© more I observed these objects, the more upset I became, accustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am the ground or at higher altitudes. I observed the chain of these the as I am close to objects passing another high snow-covered ridge in between Mt. Rainier and Mt. Adams and as the first one was passing the south crest of this ridge the last object was entering the northern crest of the ridge. As I was flying in the direction of this particular it and found it to be approximately five miles so I could the chain of these saucer like objects were at least five could quite accurately determine their pathway due to the ridge, I measured safely assume that miles long. I fact that there were several high peaks that were a little this side of them as well as higher peaks on the other side of their pathway. As the lest unit of this formation passed the southern most high snow- covered crest of Mt. Adams, I looked at my sweep second hand and it showed that they had travelled the distance in one minute and forty-two seconds. Even at the time this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I would land there would be some explanation of what I saw. A number of news men and experts suggested that I might have been seeing reflections or even a mirage. This I know to be absolutely false, as I observed these objects not only through the glass of my airplane but^j turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe thej^H with a completely unobstructed view. (Without sun glasses) Even though two minutes seems like a very short time ground, in the sir in two minutes time a pilot can observe things and anything within his sight of vision probably as sixty times. to one on a great J many I continued my search for the marine plane for another twenty minutes and while searching for this marine plane, wh observed kept going through my mind. I became more distu» taking a last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yak This im age contains all the inform ation on the docum ent. eeN FIBE N Wd ^ON FIDE N t I A L ^ ^^. * I might add that my complete observation of these objects, which I - could even follow by their flashes.as they passed Mt. Adams, was around two and one-half or three minutes — although, by the time they reached Mt# Adams they were out of my range of vision as far as determining shape or form. Cf course, when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units, they appeared to be completely round; but, I am kaing a drawing to the best of my ability, which I am including, as to the shape I observed these objects to be as they passed the snow covered ridges as well as Mt. Rainier. When these objects were flying approximately straight and level, they were just a black thin line and when they flipped was the only time I could get a judgment as to their size. Thewe objects were holding an almost constant elevation; they did not seem to be going up or to be coming down, such as would be the case of rockets or artillery shells. I am convinced in my own mind that they were some type of airplane, even though they didn’t conform with the many aspects of the conventional type of planes that I know. Although these objects have been reported by many other observers throughout the United States, there have been six or seven other accounts written by some of these observers that I can truthfully say must have ob- servied th^sage^thi^^hat I did;/particularly, the descriptions of the three Western/Xir Lines/^mpioyees, the/gdnlleman from Oklahoma City and the locomo­ tive engineer in Illinois, plus Capt Smith and Co-Pilot Stevens of United Air Lines. Some descriptions could not be very accurate?taken from the ground unless these saucer-like disks were at quite a great height and there is a possiblity that all of the people who observed peculiar objects could have seen the same thing I did; but, it would have been very difficult from the ground to observe these for more than four or five seconds, and there is always the possibility of atmospheric moisture and dust near the ground which could distort one’s vision. I have in my possession letters from all over the United States and people who profess that these objects have been observed over other portions of the world, principally Sweden, Bermuda, and California. I would have given almost anything that day bo have had a movie camera with a telephoto lens and from now on I will never be without one - — but, to continue further with my story. When I landed at the Yakima, Wash., airport I described what I had seen to my very good,friend, Al Baxter, who listened patiently and was very courteous but in a joking way didn’t believe me. I did not accurately measure the distance/tween these two mountains until I landed at Pendleton, Oregon, that same day wiere I told a number of pilot friends of mine what I had observed and they did not scoff or laugh but suggested they might be guided missiles or something new. In fact several former Army pilots informed me that they had been briefed before going into combat overseas that they might see objects of similar shape and design as I described and assured me that I wasn’t dreaming or going crazy. I quote Sonny Robinson, a former Army Air Forces pilot who is now opera­ ting dusting operations at Pendleton, Oregon, ’’V.hat you observed, I am con­ vinced, is some type of jet or rocket propelled ship that is in the process of being tested by our government or even it could possibly be .by sone foreign government. Anyhow, the news that I had observed these spread very raujdly and before night was over I was receiving telephone calls from all rts of the world; and, to date I have not received one telephone call or one letter of scoffing or disbelief. The only disbelief that I know of was what was printed in the papers. I look at this whole ordeal as not something funny as some people have made it out to be. To me it is mighty serious and since I evidently did observe something that at least Mr# John Doe on the street corner or Pete Andrews on the ranch has never heard about, is no reason that it does not exist. Sven though I openly invited an investigation by the Army and the FBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mental or a physical examination as to my capabilities, I have received no interest from those two important protective forces of our country; I will go so far as to assume that any report I gave to the United and Associated Press and over the radio on two different occasions which apparently set the nation buzzing, if our Military Intelligence was not aware of what I observed, they would be the very first people that I could expect as visitors. I have received lots of requests from people who told me to make a lot of wild guesses. I have based what I have written here in this article on positive facts and as far as guessing what it was I observed, it is just as much a mystery to me as it is to the rest of the world. My pilot’s license is 333487. I fly a Callair airplane; it is a three- place single engine land ship that is designed and manufactured at Afton, Wyoming as an extremely high performance, high altitude airplane that was made for mountain work. The national certificate of my plane is 33355. /s/ Kenneth A rnold Box 587 Boise, Idaho traveling as I have made drawing. /s/ Kenneth Arnold \ CON FIDE N TIA I 4 I----~ Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1. On 12 July 1947, a call was made at the newspaper office the ’’Idaho Baily Statesman”, Boise, Idaho. The aviation editor of paper, Mr. David N. Johnson, was interviewed in regard to how well knew Mr. Kenneth Arnold of Boise, Idaho, and as to the credibility of the he of any statement made by Mr. Arnold. The purpose of this interview was an attempt to verify statements made by Mr. Kenneth Arnold on 26 June 1947, to various national news services to the effect that he, Mr. Arnold, had seen 9 objects flying in the air above the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington. These objects were subsequently referred to as flying saucers or flying disks and will here-in-after be referred to as such in this report. Mr. Johnson stated that he had known Mr. Arnold for quite a period of time, having had relations with Mr. Arnold on various occasions, due to the fact that both he, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Arnold were private fliers and frequently got together to talk shop. Mr. Johnson stated that as far as he was concerned anything Jr. Arnold said could be taken very seriously and that he, Mr. Johnson, actually believed that Mr. Arnold had seen the aforementioned flying disks. Mr. Johnson stated that after Mr. Arnold reported having seen the flying d. sks, that the editor of the paper had assigned him, Mr. Johnson, the assignment of taking the airplane belonging to the newspaper and exhausting all efforts to prove or disprove the probability of flying disks having been seen in the northwest area. The results of this assigunsoa-b to Mr he subsequently saw is put forth in a sworn statement attached to this report as Exhibit ". Johnson and what signed by Mr# Johnson AGENT’S NOTES: Johnson is a man of approximately age. From all appearances he is a very reserved type 33 to 35 years of of person. Mr. Johnson has logged 2800 hours of flying time in various typ*s of airplanes up to and including multi-engine aircraft, during part of the war years, Mr. Johnson was the first pilot of a B-29 type aircraft being assigned to the Twentieth USAAF and stationed on Tinian island, in the Pacific. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson actually saw what he states that he saw in the attached report. It is also the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson would have much more to lose than gain and would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw something before he would report such an incident and open himself for the ridicule that would accompany such a report. 1 Incl: Exhibit "3" FRANK M. BROVIN, S/A, CIC 4th AP eeN HBB? CON FIDE N TIA L , Statement of David N. Johnson at Boise, Idaho, July 12, 1947 To Whom It May Concern: On the sixth day of July, 1947, I received from James L. Brown, general manager of the Statesman Newspapers, incorporated in Idaho as The Statesman Printing company, an assignment which was in substance: ’’Conduct an aerial search of the northwest states in an effort to see and photograph a flying disc* Conduct this patrol for so long a time as you believe reasonable, or until you see a flying disc.” In accordance to these instructions, I took the Statesman’s airplane, and with Kenneth Arnold as passenger, flew a seven and one-half hour mission on the seventh day of July, 1947. This mission was without result. It covered an area embracing the confines of the Hanford plant in Washington, and territory between and around Mt. Rainier and Mt. Adams, where Arnold first reported seeing objects henceforth described as saucers or discs. On the eighth day of July, 1947, I took an AT-6 of the 190th Fighter squadron, Idaho National Guard, of which I am a member, and flew to northern Idaho, into northwestern Montana briefly, to Spokane, Washington, and back to Boise by way of Walla Walla, Washington, and Pendleton, Oregon. This search also was negative. On the ninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, again using a national guard AT-6, this time centering my efforts over the Owyhee mountains west and southwest of Boise, a portion of the Mountain Home desert on a track southeast of the Mountain Horae army air base, thence into the Sawtooth moun­ tains, and back in the general direction of Boise on a line carrying me well to the north of the Shafer butte forest service lookout station, into the Horseshoe Bend area, and thence back in a southwesterly direction to a point between Boise and the village of Meridian, west of Boise a few miles# During this search, which lasted approximately two and one-half hours, I flew under and around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over that area known as the Camas Prairie, east of Boise. The clouds were near the village of Fairfield in that valley, and Fairfield is 75 miles airline distance east of Boise. At that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of these clouds. At the time I reached the point between Boise and Meridian, I was flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet mean sea level, which would be a mean average of 11,000 feet above the earth in this area, not considering errors in the altimeter induced either by barometric changes since my takeoff, or by the temperature at that altitude. I turned the aircraft on an easterly heading, pointing toward Gowen Field, and had flown on that course for perhaps a minute when there suddenly appeared in the left hand portion of my field of vision an object which was black and round. I immediately centered my gaze on the object. At that time, due to its erratic movement, I thought I was seeing a weather balloon. I called the CAA’s communication station at Boise, and asked if the weather station had recently released a balloon. The reply from communicator Albertson was that the bureau had not. I do not remember his exact words; I am under the impression he said "not for several hours" or gave me the exact time of the previous release, which was around 08:30 that day. CHCLOSUKk CON FIDE N TIA L Upon, hearing this response, I turned the aircraft broadside to the object, pulled back the plexiglass covering to avoid any distortion, took m y cam era from the m ap case, and exposed about 10 seconds' duration of eight m illim eter m otion picture film . During the tim e the cam era w as at eye level, I could not see the object be­ cause of m inuteness of scope introduced by the optical view finder w ith w hich the cam era, an f.1.9 E astm an, w as equipped. Taking the cam era aw ay and once again centering m y gaze on the object, I observed it to roll so that its edge w as presented to m e. A t this tim e it flashed once in the sunlight. It then appeared as a thin black line. It then perform ed a m aneuver w hich looked as if it had begun a slow roll, or a barrel roll, w hich instead of being com ­ pleted, w as broken off at about the 130-degree point. The object rolled out of the top of the m aneuver at this point, and I lost sight of it. This entire perform ance w as observed against the background of clouds previously form ing over the Cam as Prairie. The object appeared to m e, relatively, as the size of a tw enty-five cent piece. I do not know how far aw ay It w as. I do not know , nor can I truthfully estim ate its speed. I can only say it w as not an airplane, and if it w as at a very great distance from m e, its speed w as great, taking into consider­ ation that apparent speed is reduced to the view er if an object is a very great distance aw ay. I forgot to look at m y clock to determ ine the exact tim e I sav/ the object. The CA A 's log of radio contacts show s m y first contact to have been m ade at 12:17 hours. But a few seconds elapsed betw een the tim e I first saw the object, and the tim e I called the CA A 's station. I subsequently related over the radio a description, of w hat I saw , and com m unicator A lbertson m ay rem em ber it. The control tow er m ay have a recording of the conversation. I have not checked to determ ine. The purpose of m y relating over the air w hat I saw w as to 'enable rapid transm ission of the report to the new spaper, for at that tim e I w as on assignm ent and m y energies thenceforth w ere devoted to (1) trans­ m itting the Inform ation and (2) conducting a further search, w hich I did after landing for fuel and to m ake som e telephone calls. The next search, begun w ithin half an hour after landing from the first one, consum ed another tw o hours, but w as negative. I explored thoroughly the region w here I saw the object. Im m ediately after sighting the object, I asked if there w ere other aircraft in the area. There w as a F-51 of the 190th squadron practic­ ing m aneuvers in the vicinity of Kuna, but that w as behind m e/ A 0-32 passed over Boise, but I saw that aircraft go beneath m e by som e 2,000 feet. The F-51 in the vicinity of Kuna proceeded to the area w here I saw the object, at m y request, and conducted a search. It w as negative. During the afternoon, flights of F-51s w ere sent out to cover the area, and som e of them flew high altitude m issions on oxygen. These searches w ere negative. I w as subsequently inform ed that personnel on both the United A ir Lines side of Gow en field, and on the national guard side, observed a riack object m aneuvering in front of the sam e cloud form ation, w hich by now had grow n so that the clouds reached a probable height of 19,000 or 20,000 feet from a m ean base of 13,500 or 14,000 feet, m ean sea level. Three of these m en w ere national guard personnel and I talked to them , CON FIDE N TIA L saw it. This statem ent is m ade voluntarily and freely, in response to the request of M r. Brow n and Captain Davidson, w ho called on m e this m orning. /s/ David N . Johnson Subscribed and sw orn to before m e, a notary public, this 12th day °^ July > 1947. / s/ Deo. L. Flaherty_____________ N otary public for A da county Idaho. M y com m ission expires Jan 2, 1949 WN FIDE N TIA L * Chart to w hich reference is m ade on page six, statem ent of David N . Johnson This design portrays the m ovem ents of the object to w hich reference is m ade in the attached statem ent. A t all tim es the object appeared as black. Positions (1), (2) and (3) show the jerky, rising m otion. Position (4) is w here the object rolled, presenting its edge to m e. It then follow ed the dotted line, rolling over the top of the m aneuver and disappearing at position (5). This im age contains all the inform ation on the docum ent. asking them to describe w hat they saw before teeing them m y story. TheyIn order to avoid suggestion or inference of a leading nature, saw the object (from the ground) w hile I w as on m y second search They believed the tim e to have been 14:00 hours. The object perform ed in the sam e erratic m anner, they said, as I observed. The above is the extent of the story, and inform ation concerning m yself is now in order. I have approxim ately 2800 hours of flying tim e in equipm ent ranging from prim ary trainers to B-29s. Of course, that does not in­ crease m y pow ers of observation except as to those practiced daily by an airm an. It does not m ake m y eyesight any sharper except again as to the incidental dem ands upon the eyes of a pilot. A t the tim e of the experience related above, I had flow n four­ teen and one-half hours on an assignm ent to find a disc and if possible, to photograph it. In all frankness, I w as tired. I m ay have been suffering, although slightly, from w ant of oxygen. Prior to sighting the object, I had concluded there w as no point in pressing the search, that I probably w ould never see the disc-like objects referred to by A rnold and by Captain Sm ith of United A ir Lines. A t all tim es during the search, both on that day and the tw o preceeding days (particularly w hen I w as w ith A rnold) I had literally talked to m yself to keep beating into m y head that I vo uld not fall victim to the pow er of suggestion or self-hypnosis arising from a naturally very Intent desire to find a disc and bring success to the assignm ent given m e. I therefore do not believe that I w as the victim of suggestion or hypnosis. I am fam iliar id. th the optical illusion of a fixed object beginning to m ove after it is w atched a sufficient length of tim e. I know w hat tricks the eyes w ill play as to m oving bodies, and have h arned of this particularly during night form ation flying. I saw the object appear suddenly. If it had m oved in a jerky fashion (as it did at first) for the full length of tim e I observed it, I w ould not be so strong in saying that I sav; som ething not an aircraft, not a ballo'on, and not a corpuscle m oving across the retina of either eye. The m aneuver described by the object w hen its edge w as presented to m e convinces m e that I saw an object actually perform ing in an erratic flight path. The question rem ains, of .course, w hether I saw it. The m otion picture filip, developed and processed by R. W. Stohr in the E astm an laboratories at 241 Battery Street, San Francisco, show ed no trace of any object. Stohr says that if it w as m ore than a m ile distant from m e at the size I described, the object w ould not have registered suffic­ iently on the film to be show n. He said it probably w as too far aw ay to be apparent even through great enlargem ent of the negative, and enlargem ent in that case is lim ited because of the size of the film and the fact I did not have any telescopic equipm ent on the lens. The exposure w as f.16, stop set at infinity, at a speed of 16 fram es per sec ond. I have w orried over this m atter a great deal since seeing it. I "took m yself aside" and said, "com e now , Johnson, don't be stupid-J But I cannot bring m yself to the point of thinking I did not see The im pression of the m om ent w as too vivid, too realist4thing. I knew that I flying in the air w hen I saw that partial slow roll or barrel a w as not a victim of illusion. I trust this m atter w ill be of help to those investigati disc phenom ena w hich have been reported. A chart is attached depicting the m ovem ents of the obj, CON FIDE N TIA L- - Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE* 1. On 12 July 1947, Captain Smith, of the United Airlines, was interviewed at the Boise Municipal Airport, Boise, Idaho* Captain Smith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and had a 20 minute stop-over. Captain Smith reiterated the statements originally made by him to the press as to what he had seen in the late evening of July 4th, when 8 minutes out of Boise on the route to Seattle, Washington. It is the opinion of the interviewer that due to the position Captain Smith occupies, that he, Captain Smith, would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw flying disks before he would open himself for the rid­ icule attached to a report of this type. FRANK M. BROWN,S/A, CIC ^H AF CON FIDE N TLY Incident 4A F 1208 I 14 July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE: 1* On 10 July 1947, a chech was made at the following locations in Palm Springs, California for the purpose of trying to locate Mr* Richard Rankin: Palm Springs Police Department, Palm Springs Newspaper, *The Desert Sun”, Palm Springs Water Company, Southern California Gas Company, Palm Springs Telephone Company, Palm Springs Employment Office, Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce, Royal Palms Hotel, 5 Palm Springs real estate offices, and the City Offices of Palm Springs including waste disposal, water rights, tax records and etc* No record of Mr* Rankin existed in any of the above mentioned offices* 2# On 11 July 1947, Mr* Ryland M* Gorham, Postmaster of Palm Springs, California for the past 14 years was interviewed* Mr* Gorham stated that he had lived in Palm Springs for the past 24 years and that he was unaware if a person named Richard Rankin had ever lived in Palm Springs* Mr* Gorham stated that due to the fact that Palm Springs is a resort area and due to the fact that in the summer months only 3 to 5 thousand people resided in Palm Springs, whereas in the winter months 10 to 12 thousand resided in Palm Springs, it was very possible that Mr* Rankin could have lived in Palm Springs more or less on a non-permanent status and he, Mr* Gorham, not being aware of it* A check of General Delivery records revealed a letter addressed to Mr* Richard Rankin, Palm Springs, nailed from Cicero, Indiana, postmarked at Cicero, Indiana, July 1947, at 5 P*M* The return address on the envelope was listed as the Gospel Tract Worker, Route 1, Cicero, Indiana# Mr* Gorham permitted the contents of the envelope to be examined inasmuch as the contents was 3rd Class material and the envelope not sealed* The records were of a religious nature concerning the sad plight of American non-church goers, the second coming of Christ and etc* Superintendent of Mails was contacted by Mr* Gorham and stated that there was a Mr* Richard Rankin who had received mail through the general delivery office of the Palm Springs Post Office, but that the last mail, other than the letter mentioned above, came through the Post Office approximately two years ago* The Superintendent of Mails seemed to have a very uncanny memory and recalled where the nail coming in for Rankin had been addressed to* This mail was addressed to Mr* Richard Rankin in care of a trailer camp located in Palm Springs* On calling the trailer camp office, it was found that Mr* Richard Hankin had lived in the camp but departed approximately two years ago and left no forwarding address* Investigation is continuing in an effort to locate Mr* Rankin and obtain a statement from him* FRANK M* BROWN,S/A, CIC 4th AF - _ / • CON FIDE M TIA V fly ing^iscs 4A F-1208-I 15 July 1947 M E M ORA N DUM FOR THE OFFICE R IN CHA RGE : On 15 July 1947, S/Sgt E dw ard R. Baker, A SN RA 3957 637 8, 467th A A F BU (ORD), Squadron A , Ham ilton Field, California, w as interview ed and stated as follow s: S/Sgt Baker has been in the A rm y ten years and tw o m onths, tw enty-six m onths overseas duty in the E TO, and has been in the A ir Corps for about ten m onths. S/Sgt Baker stated that on 8 July 1947, he w as going to Base Cleaners from his office and w as passing along the sidew alk near the barracks of the ORD w hen he saw five or six m en pointing tow ard the sky, but as he w as use to this around an A rm y A ir Base, he paid no further attention to it until a lieutenant and a captain ahead of him stopped and pointed in the sam e direction. He stated that on glancing up he saw three objects traveling northeast across the sky. Tw o seem ed to be traveling faster than an ordinary flight of P-80s and he estim ated the altitude betw een 9-10,000 feet and approxim ately 7-10 m iles aw ay. S/Sgt Baker stated that the tw o objects in the lead appeared to be round and of a very light gray color, w hile the object in the rear seem ed to be either rotating or rolling behind the other tw o. S/Sgt Baker stated that from a distance he could not tell exactly the shape of the one w hich w as rolling as it appeared to be turning over and he couldn’t tell w hether the object w as flat. The only m eans he had of Identifying it w as the fact that it seem ed to get brighter and darker as it appeared to roll. The objects w ere in sight approxim ately four seconds. A s he w as in a hurry, he did not stop to talk to the other m en but he heard one of them rem ark that the one in the rear w as certainly rolling fast. S/Sgt Baker w as unable to identify any of the other m en In the group w ho w ere reported to have seen the object. Baker stated that it w as unlike anything he had ever seen and that he has been trying to convince him self that it w as an optical illusion, and yet at the sam e tim e he is certain that he saw the objects as described. (See E xhibit I). N OTE : S/Sgt Baker appears to be intelligent and is a reserved sort of person. He w as very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and appeared hesitant prom pted by the possibility that he m ight be ridiculed. He seem ed to be honest and sincere in w hat he stated he saw , and said frankly he w as puzzled over the m atter. A signed statem ent by S/Sgt Baker is attached. 1 Incl: E xhibit I. WILLIA M L. DA VIDSON , Gapt, A G, OIC CI, 4A F CON FIDZlllIA h FORM NO. 64 UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T 65-481 FROM : SUBJE CT: Director FBI SA C Butte FLYIN G DISCS Renytel A ugust 20, 1947. date: Septem ber 2, 1947 With reference to the above-described teletype, M r. H. H.tHE DSTROM , 322 Third A venue N orth, Tw in Falls, Idaho, w as the principal source of infor­ m ation. M r. HE DSTROM , w ho is the E xecutive Director of the Tw in Falls Housing A uthority, explained that he and his w ife and M rs. HE N RY(SHULTZ, a neighbor, w ere sitting on their front porch at approxim ately 9:30 P. M .J A ugust 19, 1947 . He said that M rs. HE DSTROM suddenly shouted and pointed to the sky and thereafter stated that she had seen an object traveling at a terrific rate of speed in a northeasterly direction. The object w as out of sight before M r. HE DSTROM and M rs. SHULTZ could see anything. While they w ere discussing w hat M rs. HE DSTROM had seen, approxim ately ten m inutes later all three saw ten sim ilar objects proceeding rapidly in the sam e direction in the form of a triangle. A s the group of objects w as dis­ appearing, three of the objects on the left flank peeled off and proceeded in a m ore northerly direction. The rem aining objects appeared to close ranks and proceeded in a northeasterly direction. y From three to five m inutes later these sam e in^VTcJuaIs saw A nother group of three objects proceeding in the sam e direction, and again in the shape of a triangle. From three to five m inutes later all three observed another group in a triangular form ation consisting of five or six objects. They w ere proceeding in the sam e direction. A few m inutes later the three persons saw a large group of objects estim ated at from thirty-five to fifty flying in a triangular form ation in the sam e direction. A pproxim ately tw enty or tw enty-five m inutes after the large group of objects w as observed, sim ilar objects w ere noted com ing back over the city in a southw esterly direction. These objects w ere generally in groups of three, five and seven and follow ed each other at approxim ately five m inute inter­ vals. Police M rs. HE DSTROM called Detective RICHA RD A . FRA ZIE R of the Tw in Falls Departm ent, a next door neighbor, w ho w as then accom panied by M . E . ROUN TRE E and RICHA RD SCOTT, also m em bers of the Tw in Falls Police Departm ent. The three officers w atched for a few m inutes and observed a group of about tw elve objects flying in form ation over the city in a southw esterly direction, The m em bers of the Police Departm ent did not continue w atching, although M r. FRA ZIE R later saw other groups, w hich w ere also seen by the HE DS and M rs SHULTZ. M rs. SHULTZ had also, called her husband, w ho saw som e-of the objects OPIE S DE STROYE D 2 7 0 N OV 18 1964 34 SE P .^^7 RECEIVED P11 I 29 PH'" INTERNAL SECURITY sr 7« o ox eo " " 0/^ O 3 >*/jaa v l BT 65-481 On the night in question the sky w as overcast and the objects could not be seen closely; how ever, they w ere distinct enough so that all persons could observe w hat they described as a glow going through the air* They said that the objects appeared to be lighted from the inside and w ere of a color sim ilar to regular electric lights* Detective FRA ZIE R and M r* HE DSTROM both stated that they could not be m eteors or com ets, that they flew on a level line and did not appear to drop* They flew at a terrific rate of speed and w ere visible for only a few m inutes at a tim e. Both persons interview ed said that the objects could not have been geese or ducks and that the lights w ere not a reflection of the city lights on som e object or objects* N one of the persons interview ed noticed any flam es or anything except the glow of lights* N one of the persons w ho claim ed to have seen these objects w ere drinking at the tim e* N o other persons in Tw in Falls reported seeing the objects m entioned herein; how ever, M r* E E DSTROM and M r* FRA ZIE R stated that it w as purely by accident that they had seen the objects and that they w ould not have seen them unless they -.rare looking for them , because of the speed at w hich they traveled* On account of the overcast sky they w ere unable to estim ate the size of the objects or the height at w hich they flew * N o further investigation is being conducted by the Butte Office, and the case is being closed* RJG:FO»S - 2 - ID FORM NO. 64 Office M emorandum UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO Director, FBI ^ FROM SA C, San Francisco date: Septanber 4, 1947 SUBJE CT: RE PORTS OF FLYIN G DISCS A IRM A IL SPE CIA L DE LIVE RY E hclosed is a copy of a letter dated A ugust 28, 1947 , from Lt. Col. DON A LD L. SPRIN GE R of A -2, Ham ilton Field, Calif, w ith an attachm ent referring to the sighting of a flying object by Captain JA GK--PE CK and his co-pilot, VIN GB-M LY, near Bethel, A laska. Photostatic copies of this letter and attachm ent are being forw arded to the A nchorage Field Office. In accordance w ith Bureau Bulletin #42, dated July 30, 1947 , A nchorage is requested to interview Captain JA CK PE CK and his co-pilot, VIN CE DA LY, preferably separately, in order to obtain all details of their reported sighting The San Francisco Field of the results of these A rm y Intelligence. of a flying object on A ugust 4, 1947 . Office should be furnished tw o copies interview s for distribution to the Sixth DWK:M R 62-2938 E h cis. cc A nchorage (E hcls.) A M SD RECORDED & INDEXED 34 SEP *3 i^mr iBcnt*! dECE’Ati) teeol- nJ ’* J ' *" ^^ rip.-/^ at'J^ v .dost*10 gni’iH 8. v- - ••■ iimas imam: t4^ m »i a AND ARD FORM NO. 64 UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T TO I-ROM SUBJE CT: vers . anvr w .m ’j D.TKsVL 62-2933 Enclosures obtained in this matter Lt A 0 of S A-2Colonel DONALD L Assistant Director D. H LA DDAttention: Director FBI Lt Colonel DONALD L •with which there1947 1947 DA TE : 1947 entitled 1947randum entitled entitled San FranciscoSAC REPORTS OK FLYING DISCS Enclosed with this letter JR. Office M emorandum Reference is made to my letter of August 8 August 27, 1947 transmitted photostatic copies of three letters dated August 4 Investigation of Flying Discs" In order to keep the Bureau fully informed concerning this matter I am enclosing a letter dated July 23 jects furnished to me by by LA URE N CE R. KIN G "Unidentifiable Ob- SPRINGER, GSC was a memorandum for the officer in charge written Special Agent CIC AdC dated July 15, 1947 SPRINGER furnished me in person with a memo- Incident for AF 1208-1" dated August 5 by JAKES A. NELSON, Special Agent CIO 4AF and pre The Bureau will be kept currently advised of any future information 62OC T1 SEP 23 - • UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJEC TS Williams Fid., C handler, Aris. 15 July 194 7 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFIC ER IN C HARGE: 1. On 14 July 194 7, 1st Lt Eric B Armstrong, 0-2059709, 170th AAF Base Unit, Ferry Division, Brooks F:.eld, San Antonio, Texas was interviewed and the following information was obtained: Lt. Armstrong departed williams Field, ..rizona at 14 00 C ST on 28 June 194 7 in a P-51 for Portland, Oregon, by the way of Med&rd, Oregon. At approximately 1515 C ST on a course of 3 00 degrees, and ground speed of 285, altitude 10,000 feet, approximately thirty miles northwest of Lake Meade, Nevada Lt. Armstrong sighted five or six white, circular objects at four o'clock, altitude approximately 6,000 feet, course approximately 120 degrees and an estimated speed of 285 MPH. Lt. Armstrong said the objects were flying very smoothly and in a close formation. The estimated size of the white objects were approximately 3 6 inch®in diameter. Lt. Armstrong stated that he is sure the white objects were not birds, since the rate of closure was very fast. Lt. Armstrong was certain that the white objects were not jets or conventional type aircraft since he has flown both types. AGENT'S NOTES: Lt. Armstrong was very sincere in the explanation and was not the exaggerating type. He merely stated that he saw and has drawn no con­ clusions as to what the white objects were. Lawrence R. King, Jr., Special Agent, C IC ,ADC Major, Air C orps ^-2-^2 ? ^^'// UN ITE D STA TE S GOVE RN M E N T A IRLA IL SPE CIA L DE LIVE RY on 2 cc Seattle ATTENTION: A SSISTS! DIRE CTOR LA DD and that his staff of Ur tnat DIRE CTOR FBI SUBJE CT: FROM SA C, SA N FRA N CISCO RE PORTS OF FLYIN G DISCS DA TE : A u^USt 27 , 1947 Colonel SPRIN GE R, fourth A ir Force, Ham ilton Field, California that a personal letter had been telephonically advised Special A gent E ICHA E L J. CA SSIDY of the San Francis Office at 10:40 A M on A ugust 27 , 1947 received by his organization from HE N RY m cLE OD, city editor of the Seattle Tim es, w hich stated in effect that because there w ere so m any stories going around relative to flying discs and related m atters reporters had been attem pting to get reliable inform ation concerning such stories, he w as w riting to inquire w hether any governm ental agency w as going. to m ake an official statem ent relative to the situation pertaining to- the flying discs: that -r. M cLE OD also asked w hether it w ould be perm issible for his reporters to interview A RN OLD, DA HL, and SM ITH relative to this situation. Colonel SPRIN GE R stated that the above-m entioned. Letter w as answ ered personally by General HA LE on A ugust 25, 1947, and advised Ur. M cLE OD that as far as the A rm y air Force w as concerned, they had no inform ation w hich w ould definitely clear up the situation: that as far as interview ing persons M cLE OD could feel free to interview w hom soever he desired in that there w as no censorship at the resent tim e; that in the interest of econom y, the Fourth A ir Force headquarters w ould not run out every lead or report of flying discs but that if w ell-founded and apparently reliable inform ation w ere received such inform ation w ould be given attention. pi^W-Ultv^JilM 1' ^ A copy of this letter is being forw arded to the Seattle Field Division for any action deem ed advisable. 62-2933 D K/jo IIQ^ 117?w RECEIVED p29 4 50PM’ INTERNAL SECURIV F. I. ' OF 'IJ f * This im age contains all the inform ation on the docum ent. m or. The ^ oru.m 6 »■- Delaw are, July 6, 19U7 . Iv i ^or^ . Rehoboth A venue, Rehoboth Beach, D^lar-re, an aircraft pilot, had aisclow ei that ip ua past ten m onths he had tw ice seen Hying discs w hich he w as repeated to have described as "flying m ayonnaise jars.” He w as reported to have seen tne ^rct flying disc during Septem ber, 1946, and to have noted another such object on June 2, 19U7* M r* WE N YON w as quoted as having called the Federal Bureau of Investigation and w as advised that the Bureau w as not interested, w hereupon he notified the E astern A irlines and the Civil A eronautic A uthority of the objects he had seen. Both agencies are reported to have accepted the inform ation stating they w ould investigate# The clipping further stated that M r. WE N YON had received no answ er to date from either agency. This clipping w as subm itted to m e by the resident agents’ office at Wilm ington together w ith the advice that no agent in Wilm ington had been contacted by M r. WE N YON . I directed M r. WE N YON be interview ed to determ ine the full facts. M r. WE N YON w as interview ed and it w as determ ined that his correct nam e is HORA CE P^JSE N YON . M r. WE N YON advised that he had been an airplane pilot approxim ately thirty years. He stated that in Septem ber of 19^6, w hile flying at an altitude of 1,000 feet, tw o or three m iles south of Rehoboth Beach, Delaw re, he noticed a projectile approxim ately fifteen inches in diam eter w hich crossed his course at right angles and w as m oving in a w est-to-east direction. A ccording to M r. WE N YON , several jets of flam e w ere spurting from the object and it w as traveling at a very high rate of speed, 1,000 to 1,200 m iles per hour. He stated that in October of 19U6, he observed a sim ilar projectile w hile flying over Rehoboth Beach at l,h00 feet# This w as also traveling from w est to east# «^_—_.------' M r. WE N YON stated that there is little question in his m ind but that w hat he saw w as som e sort of rocket being tested. He stated that he -w ished to call the m atter to the attention of the appropriate authority inasm uch a° he thought that the series of airplane crashes that have occurred re*" m ight in part be explained by w hat he had observed. He stated t^ IE S reported the inform ation to the Civil A eronautics A uthority a telephonically interview ed by a Reporter DE STROYE D N OV 18 1964 L/Dir., FBI W47 Flying Discs M iscellaneous M r. WE N YON stated that w hat he had seen traveled at such a high rate of speed that it w as very difficult to describe it, but the description "flying m ayonnaise jars" w as concocted by the new spaper reporter. This inform ation has not been brought to the attention of any A m y sources in view of the fact that only a prelim inary inquiry w as con­ ducted on the basis of a new s article w hich sets forth essentially the facts obtained from M r. WE N YON . N o further action in this m atter is contem plated by this office unless advised otherw ise by the Bureau. SB:arf 62-0 A ttachm ent -2- W^oC tg Mayonfials#^^ ported by Rehoboth Pilot rest Wenyon Believes Mystery Discs, Jot-Propelled, May Have Caused Big Plane Crash on Memorial Day eteran Delaw are pilot, Forrest Wenyon of 123 Rehoboth A venue, th Beach, disclosed last night that in the past 10 m onths he has een objects now being loosely described as “flying saucers” but he calls “flying m ayonnaise jars.” « particular difference betw een the m ysterious objects of M r. 's report and those w hich have now been observed in som e -----------------------------—140 states in that the form er, accord- n s- id rr n il /) ill al !’s w a re ds Com m ission said they had no con­ nection w ith the m ystery.-rhe West, w hich originated the sa icer reports, continued to produce observers w ho claim ed to have seen | the w hirling dies and also, bought (forth one deflationary explanation ■ °‘Bobm johhson. operator of a fly-1 iing service at M issoula. M ont., re-1 ^Charles Odom 23-year-old for­ m er B-17 navigator, theorized at Houston Tex., that the objects m ight be a version of radio-con- Solled “crystal balls” "^ bv the■sed by the N azis in the w ar. .T iese balls, w hich flew to the titudeof the bom ber and appare ly w ere m agnetized to fly al°n8 the planes, sent b- to ra sen s -’ata on SUBJEC T: DUE : 9/WU7 Continued From Firs'. Page ing to the pilot, held a true course until they disappeared from sight. This w ould indicate a guidcd-^r aS idkst an aim ed m issile w hile the course of the “saucers” has been described by observers as erratic. M r. Wenyon said last night that he3 first saw w hat loosely resem bled a "flying m ayonnaise jar” one after­ noon last Septem ber w hile flying at about 1,000 feet. It w as late in the afternoon and the pilot w as flying north. Suddenly, at an estim ateo distance of 2,000 feet in front of his plane and traveling from w est to east, M r. Wenyon saw the “jar.” Jt w as going at trem endous speed but the pilot w as able to note several tnings. The m ost im portant if these ob­ servations, insofar as arjexplanation is possible, is that the “jar” appeared to have som e sort of rocket com ­ bustion. M r. Wenyon said that spurts of silver flam e from the tail : eem ed to provide the propulsion. Carrying out the description of he “flying m ayonnaise jar,” M r. yenyon said that the tail appeared to be a lid w hich had been per­ forated and that from these per­ forations the flam es escaped. In a m atter of tw o, at the m ost three, seconds the object had dis­ appeared over and past Fort M lles. The pilot did not see it land and doesn’t know w hether it did or not. Then on June 2 w hile flying at 1.4i feet in a Stinson four-passen- pilot of 30geriship M r. Wenyon, [Other “jar.’ es •s. ie sn re er ie years’ experience, saw lie didn’t say m uchlabout it to Rehoboth A irport attaches although he did m ention it. M r. Wenyon, w ith a theory in m ind, called the federal Bureau of Investigation. TFWV,uriTnot interests 5hd tola him so, he said. He then called ; E astern A irlines and the Civil A ero­ nautic A uthority both of w hich • gave him a sym pathetic hearing, i thanked him and said they’d inves- m in tigate.To date he has received no answ er from either.M r. Wenyon's theory is that one of these “jars” w as responsible for the .rash of the E astern A irlines plane - Port Deposit, M d., on M em orial w hich killed 53 the stories of m d lelieves persons. He that accider । now that th/ -