S W 90306 ? J li_I I_■ “ I■ I Ml I I_' C ^ Jby. t^v* i^3*2- UM Jtewrr^2. DEPAR TMENT OF AIR FOR CE OFFICE OF S CIENTIFIC R ES EAR CH (OAR ) AR LINGTON, V IR G W Attendees - meeting with Dr. James McDonald, it ' .Ly " inna at the Pentagon 17 April 1967 Lt. Col. Harold A. Steiner, Ass't. Exec. S pc w. DSAF Sdcuritic Advisory Board, Pentagon. Room 5D982 Washington. D.Ck Tele. 697-9 648 (Corio 11-7464 8) Col. George Freeman, Chief, Civil Branch, SAFOl-C. Room 4AI20, Th? Pentagon, Washington, D.C. Tele. 6^7-1128 (Code 11-71 IPS). Col. Marvin Stanley, Chief, Public Information Division, SAFOIP, loom 4<922, The Pentagon, Washington, D.C. Tele. 695-5554 (Code 11-55554). H. Philip Hovnanian, Program Engineer, NASA Hq. Room 150016, 400 Maryland Ave., S.W. Washington, D.C. Tele. 962-4961 (Code 13-24961). George H. Duncan, Advanced Programs & Technology Manager, NASA Hq. Room 50016, 400 Maryland Ave., S.W. Washington, D.C. Tele, 962-4961 (Code 13-24961). Dt. Dale W. Jenkins, Ass’t Director (Science), NASA Hq. Office of Space Sv ioikc Applications loom 150078, Washington, D.C, Tele. 962-4621 (Code 13-24621). Hans Dolezalek, Atmospheric Scientist, ONI Branch Office, 496 Summer Street, Boston, Massachusetts 02210. Tele. 696-3563 (Code 11-63563). Mr. James Hughes, Head, Atmospheric Science Program, Office of Naval Research, Code 412, Washington, D.C. 20360. Tele. 696-6739 (Code 11-66739). Phillip V. Mitchell, Technical Staff Member, Institute for Defense Analyses, 400 Army-Navy Drive, Arlington, Va. 22202. Tele. 558-1641. Joseph Coates, Senior Staff Member, Inst uute for Defense Analyses, 400 Army­ Navy Drive, Arlington, Va. 22202. Tele* 558-1653. Lynn E. Catoe, Library of Congress, Science. & Technology Div., UFO Bibliography Project, Washington, D.C* Tele. 967-8088. Dan Taylor, Staff Information Officer, AFOSR (SRGC) Arlington, Va. 22209. Tela. 694-4875. (Code 11-44875). Maj. Joseph P. Martino, Ass’t. Exec. Dir. Research Communication, AFOSR (SRGC) Arlington, Va. 22209. Tele. 694-4875 (Code 11-44875). Dr. J. Thomas Ratchford, Project Scientist, AFOSR (SRPS) Arlington, Va. 22209. Tele. 694-5588 (Code 11-45588). Maj. William Metscher, Phvsicisr, Hq. OAR (RROSD Arlington, Va. 22209. Tele. 694-5505 (Code 11-45505). DAI TAYLOR Staff Information Officer NW 90306 Dodd.34714841 Page 2 NW 903116 DockL34714841 Page 3 NW 903ri6 Dockf34714841 Page 4 IBlBaBMIBlIIlB AD HOC —— REVIEW PROJECT BLUE BOOK Room 5^-1014, the Per4"—m 1400, 19 April 1966 I •llil^ 1400 Purpose of Meeting 1410 Discussion 1630 Adjourn Lt Colonel Steiner, SAB Hl at ♦ 1 discuss how best w - the recoimenda Committee to Review Projec t^ J^jLlX^ l^C^o!^" ^jL^J»^^ ^^ ^4 o > 1™ C ^Z 1 V iF^^ o ^> 1^^ «1»^» d» Iti J^O C )^™ ^ 5D-101U f * ■lilil!^ IBBi! Dr. Brian O'Brien Dr. Jesse Or'1'’'''’1’" Col Robert Burger L/Col Robert If~"'1ei' Sara Hunt ’ Harold A* Steiner Chaiiwn Member SAB Secretary I: rm ^ipant Iclpant SAB Secretary Affiliation Consultant IDA AFBSA SAFOI Hq USAF (AFBSA) • Report oi the SAB Ad Hoc Committee to Review Project Blue llijil^^ . Verbatim Record: (see attached) isiiilili^^ These meeting statistics are certified as bein le and correct. HAROLD A. STEIMER, Lt Colonel, USAF 1 At ch Assistant Secretary Record, dated 20 ^^ £5 ^^t o c 6 ri 1j .jl i^ i ci Advisory Board : NW 90306 DockL34714H 41 Page 5 H EADQUAR TER S UNITE, .ATES AIR FOR CE US AF S CIENTIFIC ADV IS OR Y BOAR D OFFICE OF TH E S ECR ETAR Y OF TH E AIR FOR CE & CH IEF OF S TAFF DATE _J?^ memo for: Reeori The following distribution was made on Memo for Record, 20 A>r 66, regarding U>0 Meeting 1400, 19 April 66, Room 51-1014: 6 copies made * Original--fl ofc *-filed* ITFOFolder^AFBSA #2 of o - aailed to Dr. Stever #3 of 6 - sent to Lt Col Hippier, AFRSTA #4 of 6 - sent to Mrs. Sara Hunt, SOOI mjm NW 90306 Oodd:34714841 Page 6 II. i^aiiBBBiiiiii a: (see attached) review the resources, methods and findings ; Book and to advise the Air Force as to any improvements that should be made in the progimu to carry out the Air Force’s responsibility. Briefings held in Commanders Conference room at Hq, STD. Discussions tiiiiiii^^ ■lilii^^ IBIII Dr. Brian O’Brien Dr. Launor F. Carter Dr. Jesse Or1'""^'” Dr. Richard r>—-i-'— Dr. Carl Sagan Chairman Member Member Meinber Dr. Willis H. Wart? Member “ John P. Spaulding Dr. Anthony Cacioppo Participant Col Warren Wheeler Participant Maj Hector Quintanella Briefer Mr. Francis Arcier Participant Col Florian Holin Briefer L/Col Harold A. Steiner SAB Sec Affiliation Consultant System Development Corp* IDA GE Company Smithsonian Astrophysreal Observatory­ Rand Coi'poration SAFOI FDD Consultant to FID FDD Hq USAF (AFBSA) lll|lligliiililiMi^^ Reviewed: dated 17 January 1953 Selected case histories from Project Blue Book C ' Project Blue Book Methods and Case Histories q Record: None VI. These meeting statistics ar Led as being true and correct A ssistant Secretary NW 90306 W visory Board Dadd 34714841 Page 7 AD HOC COMMITTEE ON UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS AGENDA Thursday, 3 February 1966 0800 Welcoming Remarks 0805 Introduction 0810 TheAir Force Problem 0830 Briefing on Project ' 1000Break 1015 Review of Selected Case Histories > ; ■ A AAAAV A ■ \ 1145 Lunch 1315 Executive and Writing Session (UFOs) Commander or Vice Commander, FTD Dr. O’Brien, SAB Lt Col Spaulding, SAFOI Major Quintanilla, IT’D FTD Staff Assistant Executive Secretary USAF Scientific Advisory Board 8 22 December 1965 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAjt At; AAAIAAAAAAA A A'A-t ''NW 9u3ii5 Dc.dd:34714841 Page 8 MW) TOR RECORD 20 April 1966 SUBJECT: Implementing SAB Ad Hoc Committee on Project Blue Book 6 A Recommendations ) \ 1. The folloving personnel met at 1400 on 19 April in Room 5D-WU to discuss how best to implement the recommendations made by the SAB Ad Hoc Committee to review Project Blue Book. ; Dr. Brian O’Brien Colonel Robert Burger, AIBSA ' Dr. Jesse Orlansky Lt Col Harold Steiner, AFBSA Lt Col Robert Hippier, AFRTSA Mrs. Sara Hunt, SAF01 _ - 2. On 5 April 1966, Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown, in a memorandum to the Chief of Staff, stated that the Committee’s recommendations should be accepted and arrangements made for a (sic) scientific team to investigate in depth certain selected sightings of UFOs. General Ferguson was given responsibility for implementing the Committee’s recommendations and Lt Colonel lippier is project officer. * 3. Although the Committee’s recommendation was clear and succinct, initially there was no unanimous agreement on how to put this recommendation into effect. A basic question is: (1) Should the contract be with a university or should It be with individuals connected with a university'/ 1 great deal of . the meeting was taken up discussing these facets of the problem and a clear answer did not evolve. Therefore, it is probable that I, and perhaps some selected members of the Committee!may be asked to meet with Colonel Hippier again. - 4# Generally, the concept of using universities or individuals from universities) is good. Specifically, however, there needs to be a lead university to coordinate and collate the investigations. After some discussion, it was suggested that the University of Dayton is probably most appropriate because it is located close to Hq F® who will retain management of Project Blue Book. ’Other universities were suggested that could provide personnel to give areal coverage of COHUS. They are listed below. East Rensselaer, Troy, N.X. Columbia NYU Univ of Conn. Tale Cornell Uaiv of Dayton Carnegie Tech West i Utah " Colorado ' Iowa Wisconsin ! Illinois j 6 Chicago Univ of Calif (Berkeley) South Vanderbilt Duke Univ of Florida Georgia Tech Wiv of Georgia Copy Nr 5 of Z^Copies NW 90306 . DockJ 34714841 Page 9 UCLA Oregon 'Washington Rice Univ of Texas Ctalw’i wAvcM . '.Mcr.v Bsseisil Mi J» Official Use Only s®lc Colonel Hippier pointed out that it will probably be September before he gets the money to implement this plan. Dr. Orlansky pointed out that because of the summer holiday, Colonel Hippier should make contact with the 'universities before the end of May. 5* Since we are dealing with an emotional phenomenon, there was some ' discussion about whether universities (i.e., their presidents) would be * \ willing to get involved with UFOs. Dr. O’Brien suggested that Dr. Stever; as President of Carnegie Tech, might send letters to a few selected . university presidents with whom he is acquainted to get some idea of " their feelings on this matter. (ACTION: AFBSA). In this way we can , learn what a typical reaction might be and also some of the pitfalls . '- to avoid when contacting other universities. * „ 6. There are still several unanswered questions or problem areas: ; v (a) Since the problem is 99# public relations,it is essential that Fly , the investigating teams have some modicum of skill in press relations. It was strongly suggested that a good solid PIO type (perhaps incognito) be included on the first few Investigation teams. This caused quite a bit of discussion and a final answer did not evolve. ■ < to. to (b) The objective is to have impartial scientists from schools with ; good reputations that have never been involved with UFOs. (c) Considerable thought must be given to how the contract or \ ■If:?-' : contracts are to be written. F l (<) In order to utilize their talents to the best advantage, it'was proposed and accepted that Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Dr. Donald Menzel fora the nucleus of a Consultant-Advisor team to work with Hq FTD in determining which sightings the university team should investigate. ■f;Fl\: (e) When teams are selected, it is strongly recommended that they be brought together at some certain location such as Hq FTD and given a thorough briefing on what is expected of them. This briefing should ; cover all of the intangibles and pitfalls that must be avoided In . t?;yy-?a;to order to give good Air Force public relations. - (f) Another question that was not fully resolved is how AFSC ; y should get into the act. The Committee’s original thought was that : someone from the nearest AFSC base should work with the investigating team. The Committee also recommended that a amber of the OSI might to work with the university teams and give them the benefit of their to Fy to investigating experience. It was questioned whether this would help or hurt the Air Force effort. Neither of these questions were F; rto fully resolved. I f 2 lor Official Use Onto NW 90306 DockL34714841 Page 10 (g) It was pointed out that the National Research Council had conducted an exercise in Disaster Research which had involved some investigating teams similar to the ones we are discussing. Although the committee is now defunct, Mrs. Marjorie Wilson, Government Code 1224 - 230/239 has their reports and win be glad to let us review ( them. 3^^(ft%fexAA^ HAROLD A. STBBIR, Lt Col, USAF Assistant Secretary USAF Scientific Advisory Board >» Official Use Only NW 90306 DockJ 34714841 Page 11 2 iilK S UF .C SW S4HW R anw tiSXit» A FBSA (M r. Hasert) MH rea as. »u«*w REMARKS ^O FO RM Q K B»ta« D D Form< 1 Feb SO and D B F«® M * «♦ M 6B--«^BtU O lO C TM ^O l& JO w hidiiriJlbea»disatU «iiM iiW i. FROM - ’ MB A FRD Q -P (M r. Baillie) M«tl . NW 90306 Oodd:34714841 Page 12 IllOi^^ JpBiBlIilJ^^ ®W S ABd loo Oe? iiiiiiiii^^ ill|ii^^ Br 66, 2 cys NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 13 S W 'jUJU1? Jac c 34714841 Pane 14 18 toy 1966 SUBJECT: Conversation with Dr. Stever Concerning SAB Support to USAF Investigations of UFOs 1. On 17 May I discussed SAB support to USAF investigations of UFOs with Dr* Stever* In a previous letter (dated 21 April 66), we had asked Dr. Stever to informally query some of his university-president colleagues to deter' *' w the best modus o ’ ~ for a aching universities and asking them to provide people a-J nsowces to investigate ?olentlfically selected I’Pn fightings as recover ierl by the SAB Ad Hoc Committee* This memo dor—hidings and conclusions on this matter. 2* On the t~—kJs informal contacts with university presidents, Dr. w-ver culteves cue Air F—~ will get mixed reactions to its request to univerr^1 “ x’ .tive side of the picture, he has gleaned these general reactions: a. It may be against some school’s policy to make contractual arrangements with the government. b. Some ’^ill have no interest or have any qualified investigators* 3. On the positive side, the following reactions were received: a. Some 'universities will do the job under contract. b. Some w ' ’ ’ike to do the Job from a research aspect. (NOTE: Dr. Stever c"VKDted that this may be the ’’foot in the door” approach to request 1 research "—-’3 for w-’- ^ the university that may be constru-* ” be related to the UFO investigation.) 4. Dr. Stever believer xkU, as a whole, the smaller universities will be more receptive the larger ones. 5. Dr. Stever has had some second thoughts on the SAB (specifically, him) sending Luc tuUxl letters co the selected universities. He believes that the letter chvuld v»e from and be signed by action office within the Air Force* The latter might refer to the r&eoiEindatlons of the SAB scientific committee as € ■LL” Air Force actions to initiate a jf||j|||||il^||||||j|||||lfi^^ w a college president, Dr. jtable case if it a. The value of participating in such investigations to the school, and b. The value to the Air Force and the nation. NW c"Bi'i6 Dndd:34714841 Page 15 6, Dr» Stever stated that lie would be h''-”*’ to review and critique the draft letter from f -qty prr^-xt_ —'—oint. 7. Dr. Stever also suggested that OSR could probably advise which universities are most lively ' ■ ‘ ~ ■ tost diversities have had dealings with offer some ROBERT j; Bl /Colonel, USAF Secretary USAF Scientific Advisory Board Copies to: Lt Col Hippier, AFRST Mrs. Hunt, SAFOI Dr. Brian O’Brien NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 16 NW 'jijjijb Doc d 34714841 Page 17 DEPAO /lENTC'.' W AS H INGTON c a? sic MEMORANDUM FOR THE CHIEF U; dA"F Attached is a copy of the Special Report of the SAB Ad Hoc eject look.” I believe that the Co;.a\h>'c's reecAAAskltl . should bo. accepted arc b cocv.vr for ci seicotiMc a l*\eGu\!.ao in depth ? d selected repefd sppv.ioyo of .If-yuu concur, General Lchdll> can did Anerul Fari>..w a wu AFSC in Making the arinwycocnu c . Ikedo blown Attachment NW 90306 DEPAR '•NT OF TH E All FOR CE AIR S TAFF ' W AR Y S H EET TO ACTION S IGNATUR E (S urname and Grade) TO ACTION S IGNATUR E (S urname and Gradel It An mryaseu 6 2 7 3 8 4 9 S 10 S UR NAME OF ACTION OFFICER AND GR ADE Lt Coleael utviuex S YMBOL PH ONE T V FIS T’S I NIT. S US PEN S UBJECT Au Ad car Wm litre import w ^aren S UMMAR ¥ 1. Attac/iec x'or jour figavture la c kil.e v,;v»HMtlLuig to Genera,! IWWty the opceiru deport vd lie tuJ 4.J toe Commit.loo to lkvl® frejeet Cine uema 1, Tltc ikwTrta wo renter ami the nparL U bciQu> .rWhled iu veepuw^c la ik’Deral LeUiLLyU r®nojuieai to 70a on Th .my-Wlvr UT^ (AWi cd iveccot hig •Util the TAS review We .one Project Alvo Boox., The objective of this Inveuii^gtion woo to den,nshk' if and Too the Air force could Improve its program for Uvcrtigatlny WVs. Tae Committee concluded that the prograa .•a re improved by mwhictuip a more Uimvipn iW unWin* UvestIga rioa cd piestiorubh dghiXngit mid renwmtWcd a uhioa Ui douig Uiv* 3, ceeowmitled distribution. io: fonder a Ayl co 1WI 25 AWW 1 Tommi item .^enters 1 each CoiaaKlw, IT'D 5 AWC iW>Ao reign technology 2 TAB Were Uriah 2 Chairman. CAT 1 k After your sigua hire and nppxwal of die xmctameudW distribution, 00 rill um; pppropriutc act ion to forwuri Ue copies of he report. DIUJ. dlWH/Colonel, IWA’ decretory WAV' thlentlfic Advisory hoard |;MA 2. AWl hemo, do hop W AFH Q MAR 62 50 PR EV IOUS EDITIONS OF TH IS FOR M AR E OBS OLETE. NW 90306 Oodd:34714841 Page 13 NW 903116 Dodd:34714841 Page 20 DEPAR T MT OF TH E AIR FOR CE AIR S TAFF * ^AR Y S H EET TYPIS T’S IN IT. TO ACTION S IGNATUR E (S urname and 6»ie) TO ACTION S IGNATUR E (S urname and G rade) 1 Gen Fe Mil Di rgusoa r, SAE 6 2 7 3 8 ♦ 9 5 W S US PENS E DATES YMBOL AFBSA PH ONE 74811 S UR NAME OF ACTION OFFICER AND GR ADE Col Burger S UBJECT SAB Information/Action^Ttem S UMMAR Y DATE 5 October 1965 1. This request arrived in our office today apparently without your seeing it. X I discussed it briefly with Dr. Stever and his initial reaction was lukewarm. He questioned the value of a review of the UFO pro­ gram by the SAB. He suggested that we might talk to some other SAB members knowledgeable in this area to get their opinion on the value of such an SAB undertaking. We thought of Brian O’Brien (FTD/DAG), Jesse Orlansky (Psychology), Dick Porter (Geophysics), and possibly Court Perkins and Dr. Markey. 3. Before we do this, however, Dr. Stever.thought we s your views on this to see if perhaps there is some additional information or facts which would give a clue on why the request was ade. ROBERTA. BUR Secretary USAF Scientific Advisory Board Atch Memo on UFOs Colonel, USAF AFH Q maT® 50 PR EV IOUS EDITIONS OF TH IS FOR M AR E OBS OLETE. NW 90306 Oodd:34714841 Page 21 DEPAR T MEN i OF TH E AIR FOR CE W AS H INGTON O FFIC E O F THE SE C RE TA RY MWORATOW FOR MILITARY DIRECTOR, SCIBBIHC ADVISORY BOARD SUBJECT: J- ; ■ ; o A M M M A A c© A M M O M . R k Amt . .. t c •M I Ai X o; S, ■ A ' J A ( M U M A R a Am. I V Tot. a^. , R m M ,< ’M C M v : M M ., A '. mtm, . . mmR e mm maw Plans and Operations that Project Blue look is a worthwhile program M IC W 3 M i O . ‘ G C A ‘ A 'Am A mJ m Mt a c A m ; a threat to our national security# The Assistant Deputy Chief of Am mm Am (I ’ } ■’ M A M A . A 1 m c a ... mA m A, m m 'AmA threat to our AAm 1 c om " .A A o a..’A; A ?: V A c m m A m A A ­ ' i ’ wll qualified 1 Ammmm . / - A wA. can- ■ A c A A -.. M A , A 1 X a mAau , .A k Ac m a ..'Am. c amR u m a C T M X .c -mA HA W A II Ma wAm ?A t Am G M •■ jt ? c am > R ag 1 Rs mmw^ mAo c , a f m.-m- — m I Force a , t . 5 NW 903116 DAd:34714841 Page 22 ctor J« Allen Himels vho is idle Chairman of the Dearborn Observatory at Northwstern University is the scientific consultant five. Winston .:. , LeBAILLX Major General, USAF Director of Information 2 Attachments Blue Book Report 2, AER 200-2 6 NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 23 C $1 Mmc ! ih^ I N S T IT UTE FOR DEFENS E ANALYS ES Science and Technology Division 400 Army-Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia 22202 • Telephone 1703] 558-1000 "'■"bi vary 13, J'Wl Lt. Colonel Harold A. Steiner, USAF Assistant Executive Secretary CAT) A Avrul' Ad\;son ITvpu Department of the Ait Force Headquarters Unitec S toc ks Air Force Washi"(tn, D.C. 20330 Dear Hal, I appreciate your " o i i in sending me a < opy oL the Condon Report on UFO’s. He and his group seem to have done a tremendous job, just about what our committee thought was needed. I gruss we were very lucky to have reviewed the situation in such timely fashion \ The fine eial tent of his work by the National Academy of Sciences confirms that Condon has done what was needed. It is a pleasure to so; this fruitful outcome to our recom­ mendation and I appreciate' having th; sgcrt. NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 24 50C SYSTEM D EV ELO PM EN T C O RPO RA TIO N 2500 C o lo rado A venue • Santa M o nica, C alifornia 90406 February 28, 1969 mt .'If’.'T .’ Fvi.* y >ard Air Force Washington, W Colors t ■er: Thank you very muc: "Miding m1 * udon Pvwt and WT Mal Academy m Av report. I have not 1 ' e A o \ plete report but have glanced through it, and it certainly seems comprehem , u. Ti * mo , ■' r'my review certainly >d credibility and ought to take care 'elm. 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S W IS S , Lt Colonel, US O liititiit te«tt»t Bewtaiy BMP 8<«tifte Ijiwifioiy B jiisbI 1 Atali ftt|«rt !!■• look fctwlil NW 90306 Oodd:34714841 Page 29 MAJOR DONALD E. KEYH OE US MC tR ET.) DIR ECTOR GOR DON I. R . LOR E, JR . AS S IS TANT DIR ECTOR National investigations c ommittee ON AER IAL PH ENOMENA W AS H INGTON. D. C. 20036 ADM I Nl S TR ATI V E OFH CH i 1536 CONNECTICUT AV E.. N W . TKLS R H ONKi (202) 667-9434 A , ; ■ Is -r A?. Ok Ti A??' At1 OSA" Jcl'-dine jAvc t.t Sircar*' , k;- J ra1'/;” b/^/Wc'4 Jr^/TT/V^/Wy^ Zv/^ ATTY/Z^/Xt /w4Az/67^*ZZt A/Ax^ NW 90306 DockL34714H 41 Page 30 • 2013 0 OASBA/SSb4 Ehrlich/?W3^ . Bequest for Project Bluebook Reports • 20 Feb 68 M r. D on Berliner N ational Investigations C om m ittee A on A erial Phenom ena ' 153 6 C onnecticut A venue 1 W ashington, D C 200J6 1. Reference your request directed to SA F-O IC C for portions of Project Bluebook Reports. 2. W e m aintain a reference copy of the m aterial you requested and can furnish you photographic copy at a cost of $12,75. If you are inter­ ested in purchasing a copy, please m ake your check or m oney order payable to ‘’Treasurer of the U nited States” and rem it to this office# E L L IS F/V U M D • C hief, Inform ation Branch D irectorate of A dm inistrative Services NW 90306 Dackl34714841 Page 31 Ifisearcli EnV Engineem ^^ IDX 400 Aniij’-Navy lEiivogVil^ V irginia 22202, Telephm e^ (703) 778-1000 July 2^, 111 Mr. Chester N. Insert Acting Executive Secretary USAF Scientific Advisory Board Room 5D1014, The Pentagon Washington, D. C. Dear Chet: Whnn f was in Thailand last week. I spoke to several men at the U.S. Embassy who Fold me about an intones ting problem that faces them. Very simply, the Thai government has made numerous reports of mysterious helicopter flights in the North­ east part of the country near Laos, an area in which Communist terrorists have been increasing their activity. Although the members of the U. S. Embassy take these reports very seriously, they have never been able to authenticate a single valid sight­ ing. W I would not have given this matter any further thought except that someone said the reports of these sightings were very much like the reports of UFO's meaning, thereby, that one unusual report is likely to inspire additional ones. It seemed to me that the SAB report on UFO's might be useful to these men in the sense that it would provide them with a basis for seeing that a more valid understanding of the problem could require a more thorough examination than has been possible up to now. It is with this suggestion in mind that I hope you will be able to send a copy of the report to two men in the Embassy very much concerned with this matter. They are Peer de Silva and David Smith. Mr. de Silva is Special Assistant for Counterinsurgency and Mr. Smith is Special Assistant to the Ambassador. I hope that it will be possible for our Embassy in Thailand to take advantage of the work done by the SAB committee chaired by Brian O'Brian. 1 JO:mh cc: Dr. H. Guyford Stever NW 90306 Dackl:34714841 Page 32 16 May 1967 Progress Report on orado WO Study 1. of the University of Colorado WO Investigating si the state of their thinking on t a biin notes taken at that meeting a 1). A report of the Committee-1 also included (Atch P). 2. T mtirg was held in Dr. Bill Price’s office at OSR. The following jiijijiiiiiiijiiflli^^ Dr. p ""‘eip Univ of Colorado (WC), Principal Investigator CO, Project Coordinator Univ c 0 miber of the HOC IBillllllillilOll^^liBiilliiillIlil^OiifiiiiiliiilBiil||iil^ lllllllllil^iBiiiiliiiiiiiiiiii^^ Ollilllllillill^^0iiiiiiiiiillliiiiii0iBl|O lllllll^^ itBBlH llli^^ Mr. D " OSR Public Information oW feovegw Cl 3* Hit Uc a methodol investigai studies lag W ;: no criticism of Project Blue Book was inferred) will not iiiiiiiiBiiiiiiliiiiiiii!®^ those obtained wit: •MWJ i IB Dodd 34/14841 Page 33 special interest «2MU« ||||||||^^ BiBillliilllli^^ i data able (i.e.; ||||||||i|||^^ lllliliili^^ of the- |||||^|||i||^^ iiliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii^^ NW 9U306 Dockt34714841 Page 34 "‘by remainder" after el Iminatlng all other pumsibilitj us of terreotrhb. rub divine origin and Lear by; extra-Lorrestrial as the only alternative. Al blue, time,, the- [Lt Awitteo apparently favors the hall hypothesis. c. ba to fraii sight are being put on punch, cards. The coding' system cun bo ooquiKk'd up to Ln) cards par sighting. ALL reports of eight inge after 1 JoimaLg bii uro being c i. For eases prior 'to Ipdl, the AMniLt.too ashed MCA11 to pick out (rises they believe should bo included in the computer unalys L? part of vim investigation, Alien questioned as to. why MCAF wins sou ie i.tud as a source, the Commavtoe stated that if thei r report is- to have any credit!1tty then NLAP would have to be invoxoed hi one form cur another. T am inclined to agree with thui.r . Tlie.ro will be ill senior rcientlAm associated with the VmC project. 9. In my opinion, one of the most interesting and potentially beneficial A of the brr'!+L'?':'> invedtrhylimis is the nub-iwtimetr with vuriaus agencies and individuals (i.e., SRI, Lord, RAMD, KCAR, etc.) to study such phenomena us Ilium hint i on, visual perception, fireballs, rad Ioehemistry, Lia LI 1 r gi lining,, , , as lib After J I sterling to the It briefing and discussing the matter . . ■ • I do "' ’ ’’eve the SAB Ad doe Committee should pursue thio matter further . The AX' Committee scums to have a fairly good grasp of the problem, and I do not see what useful purpose rho PAL Committee cun a . . . ; year after the UAJ Committee lias gained oxyorl might bo useful tor us to convene at Boulder for a series of formal briefings on ililijjiiiiiilliiiiiijij^ ilOllIjilBlBliiilliBlii^^ ji|ilililllijllOlj|^^ and serve as a useful "devil ’s advocate" or help estab- Hah cunMibiilty. The SAB could also suggest r " :i ’•""timir. where warrants This type of CAR action would, of ev.irr.se,, have to be dene with the aauutloii oh hr. 3 Lev er, vAK, and hr. LikL'hi. Whit A.yiFllh, Colonel, Ass is hunt ®emt Ao Aeveta ry USAh Cciont^fic Advisory Board 1 Atchi 1. Comments "by Lob At®iitter NW 90306 Dadd 34714841 Page 35 M EWM ANAUM FO K i®O KP in Avgust J M id SUWECT: Visit by M r. WLhlium F. Vietinl, RICAP Today J was visited by William WietueL, investigator for the Rational Invest 1 ya tiny Committee an Atrial IMcnomena. Mr. Wtetrol did not Have an appc-hitaent bid just dropp.jd in? y.rwsuma’bly to discern the report of the MAh Ad Hoc Committee to Review Project ’’.time |ok," This wo did; bowves, the discussion soon dettvieraud to an Ind^t/ment. vA the way in which Major Quintella had handled the Ravenna, th ha, RAO si ting in April 1906. With regard to this ya iAi colar siting, the main erltlehoi Major Quintal.La seems to Ra that, hie iutorviews with the ],u'ph: who hud sited the UFA were restricted to about three minuter each, via the tAlcphmr'. However, in all fairness, it should to pointed out Vial Major Qvint.dlu did visit tiro scene of the Ravenna oiling at u hater Hair, 1. I neither concurred with Miu WleMel'f. opinion of Major Qu lu IclAt nor did I de fend Major Qulnlelia strongly. I did point out that, hopefully,, the lOiwwMiy trains nav being formed will povide scientific information that, can eliminate the type of personali ly conflict that- apparently exists l.ctuen N.TAf and Major' Qiu no Asa,. There wan some additional discusstun the ptitlwnt Infnrmatioii cou- ccrnlng the Ruvenuu siting of which Mr, Wiotscd war. a principal NTCAP Investigator. lie has- completed a lengthy and voluminous report of this siting that. In impressive in elec if not in content. i asked Mr. Wict.nl If MOAB .invcdr^ied every UFO siting as th1'roughly as they had ayvonti lai von ti gated this one. The obvious answer was rm because NICAP has limited resuurers. I then pointed out tint the Air Force nJ.so has ’Limited rowowG and cannot spend, as much time on «'uch UFo siting as is would 11 k Ac purled amiably al, an impasse. He did not convince me, and I certainly did not conviraeo Me. HM O LfA. M EIiAEj LtCM ond, M ITA Asai s hunt Secretary UFA!’1 Scientific Advisory Ajurd NW 90306 DockJ 34714841 Page 36 NW 90306 Joe a£.’’14841 n’acio j7 IW 90306 Igc d 34714841 Page 38 NW 90306 jocc 34714841 Paa S W 90306 joc c J^/14841 pjgi? 4u S W 90306 joc c 34714841 Page 41 DEPAR TMENT OF TH E AIR FOR CE H EADQUAR TER S UNITED S TATES AIR FOR CE W AS H INGTON, D.C. attn oZ° 21 January 1966 su^cr Some SAFOI Thoughts for the SAB Ad Hoc Committee on UFOs TO: RECORD ||l||||||j|||||i|||li||i||||^ Force’s concern oven the UFO problem chh Lt Col John P. Spaulding anc " ~arah Hunt (4a 120 - 79079). 2. SAFOI gets cany inquiries concerning the UFO problem. iiiiiiiiiiBBili||iiilill^ on UFC" " ' • from the President and the Congress. The problem emnidallv boils down to one that is typified by the yicstia.p ’When did you stop beating your wife?” Any ameer rhe Air Force gives tends to incriminate the Air Force ar i concealer of information one at the very least detracuT from its imago. SAFOI hrs ro wpe with this public relations problem and wants something done about it. Therefore they ' e turned to the SAB. Btssssi#wTB||w«Bisf|iiitsBag|BiiiisigiiiBijpiBiiiii8y^ 3. Too 3 esc rhnu a group of scientists looked into the scientific aspects of the UFO problem war lb 1^53. Attachment 1 is a copy of "port. Bi|||||||4|L||f|oifLllAfaf||Ty|irS I^ 4. Basically the ducstion is this--is there any such thing as a UFO? Wit an Che Aly Force receives inf oration, on a UFO sighting they have several options open to them. Firm, they can ' that there is anything such as a UFO, Second, they er, rest reflections on the sighters mental ability or t he is trying to perpetrate a hoax on the country. Third, they can investigate the sighting as well as possible with their limited r^m-rees (3 men at FTD) and admit that the AF is looking into ths matter. Obviously, options one and om offer no solution. Thu^} SAFOI has to rely on and go through the normal sighting in­ vestigation (ALadirent 2) that leads to admissions that there are a ceria*a percentage of UFO slab Lings that the Air Force cannon identify, Ahls a^pn^h.^gpy-pffpAe like Fuller ammunition NW 9l'lV l6 ; I.- :;;/; A Dadd 34714841 Page 42 ' 5. SAFOI wants some pr^igious scientific group to look at the UFO problem in depth and come up with a position that will help get the Air Force off the hook. SAFOI expects to gain a report that will permit them to stand before the most reynown critics and say that the AF position on UFOs is sound or action is being taken to make it sound. 6. The questions that SAFOI wants answered are typically as follows: , a. Is Project Blue Book adequate? " b. Is there or is there not scientific evidence that UFOs exist? c. What can be done to make the Air Force position credible? 7* SAFOI claims, and rightly so, that they cannot get to the heart of the public relations problem until they get some scientific evidence upon which to base their opinion. For this reason they are very emphatic that they do.not.want a ’’for motherhood and against sin” type of committee report. As far as SAFOI is concerned the problem is critical. 8. As evidenced by the Fuller article in the Saturday Review (which is a prestigious news media that is read by highly influential people both in and out of government), the level of criticism of the Air Force is getting on a higher and higher plane. The recent Wall Street Journal article is another ex­ ample of Air Force criticism appearing in a high-class news media. SAFOI clearly defined the criticality of the problem when they concluded by saying that none of the current Air Force problems, such as sonic boom, supersonic transport, and integration, etc., have created the poor public image for the Air Force that the UFO problem does. HAROLD A. STEINER, Major, USAF 3 Atch Assistant Secretary 1. UFO Report USAF Scientific Advisory Board 2. FTD Form 164 3* Sat Review Article NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 43 r- :,;r '/a E« 01 WIDENTIF] FLUNG OBJECTS January 14 - 18, 1953 f f % IM BitiW J IJ3«C:i!JD at 3 ym imams lECW S ICTCT) 4FTEa 12 YEA3S . ■ JOi MB. $200.10 W awwmcwa , >***.«« * e*«wAW ^ Eu£SNW 90306 Dcidd:34714841 Page 44 H EADQUAR TER S UNITED S TATES AIR FOR CE US AF S CIENTIFIC ADV IS OR Y BOAR D OFFICE OF TH E S ECR ETAR Y OF TH E AIR FOR CE & CH IEF OF S TAFF OATE^^^./7 MEMO FOR : Vt^'W^T^l^^ ^^^^^ / /)u^^t^ * ^^^U l^ ^ ^uJ^^^ ^ ^/c^- cA. yi-tV /m ^t>V$ '>^yrf £&■*■/^*'*'££4-*^ / cP ^^ > < NW 9u3u6 DocR L34714841 Page 45 I NW 90306 Dacld.34714841 Page 46 ZADQUAR TER S UNITED S TATES AIR FOR Cu US AF S CIENTIFIC ADV IS OR Y BOAR D OFFICE OF TH E S ECR ETAR Y OF TH E AIR FOR CE 4 CH IEF OF S T*FF DaTE_lM^M MEM0F0R : C©( i^^r |^ |-UcAe i i s st,.gallon were routed to Dr. Pago. Following these remarks, ihe motion pictures of the sightings at Tremonton, Utah (2 July 1952) w:d Crust Falls, Montana (15 August 1950) were shown. The meeting ad,; wound. al 1200, The second meeting of the Panel opened at 1400. Lt.J USN, and Mr/ ...,. .of the USN Photo Interpretation Laboratory, Anacostia, presented the results of their analyses of " C-Mm mentioned above. This analysis evoked considerable as elaborated upon below. Besides Panel members and ‘‘V po’^iuiol, Capt. E. J. Ruppolt, Dr,, fcEgggW were present. 'VJ'wnug the Photo Interpretation Lab presentation, Mr. E. J. Ruppelt spoke for about 40 minutes on ATIC methods of U'Li.r.g and evaluating reports of sightings and thoir efforts to quality of reports. The meeting was adjourned at 1715. NW 90306 Dackh34714841 Page 51 7a:. third and fourth hwctings of the Panel wore held Thursday, 1,5 January, commencing at 0900 with a two-hour break for luncheon* nlies Panel members and CPA personnel, Mr. Rupw " I and Dr.^ w^’ present for both sessions. In the morning, Mr. Rapxult con- liuk his briefing on ATIC collection and analysis procedures. kwweet STu'dK support atu -‘.or ojscrlcd by Dr A ■ - • • A.number of case histories wore dis- new A k ch Lail and a motion picture film of seagulls was shown. A two hour break for lunch was taken at 3200. ’ At 1400 hours * gave a 40-minute briefing of Project MikLEj tho investigatory project conducted by the Air VWeo Jtkeorulogical Research Center at Cambridge, Mass, In this k'kCkg ho pointed out tho many problems of sotting up and manning k-hoor instrumentation watches of patrol cameras searching for gL i yp of tJ.kO. ’s. | joined the meeting with A I expressed his support of the Panel’s । 'tLah and stated three personal opinions: • . s . That greater use of Air Force intelligence officers in the field (for follow-up investigation) appeared desirable, but that they required thorough briefing. -4- NW 90306 Dcidd:34714841 52 c. Thal some increase in the AT1C section devoted to U.F.O. Thio vetoing was adjourned at 1700 » of the Panel convened at 0900 with the same enumerated for Thursday (with the exception 1000 there was general discussion and study of a ‘ernun material. Also, read a prepared paper making a rhun observations and conclusions. At 1000 g^ve a l-'ionuig on his fifteen months experience in Washington as Project ■'■'ficar for U.F.O.»s and his personal conclusions. There was m^ .i.-mnWe discussion of individual ease histories of sightings - ch\.h he referred. Following, presentation, a , aihrilioml ease histories wore examined and discussod session opened at 1400, Besides Panel members and CIA , u Dr. was present. Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner, as Panel hster, was present at this meeting for the first time. Progress ho. mint Ings was reviewed by the Panel Chairman and tentative NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 53 coned reached* A general discussion followed and tentative ■ rariwr^rnAions considered. It was agreed that the Chairman should draft a report of the Panel to that evening for review by the the next iwn/mg. Thu meeting adjourned al T/lj. Ar Opbp the* Chairman opened the seventh session and submitted r navy draft of the Panel deport to the members. This draft had -'n revived and approved earlier by Dr. Berknor. The next two ' of rmfidf hours were consumed in discussion and revision of the . '' t'! . jt 1100 the' * joined the meeting and reported that he tod bairn and discussed a copy of tho initial rough draft to the Director of Intelligence, USAF, whose reaction was favorable. At 1200 the meeting was adjourned. ' At 1100 the eighth and final meeting of the Panel was opened. coion and rewording of contain sentences of the Report occupied ■ > f’wt hours. (A copy of tho final report is appended as Tab C.) • 1 o' u?" fallowed by a review of work accomplished by the Panel .or! wtiteimnt of individual Panel Member’s opinions and suggestions r dmf.k that were felt inappropriate for inclusion in the formal . . It was agreed that the writer would incorporate these '-ouwiys in an internal report to the__ The material below ’us^ujs this information. . ■ » ^ cyh^ed in a similar manner*1 • The Panel pointed out that of the brevity of some sightings (e.g. 2-3 seconds) and the of the witnesses to expi-ess themselves clearly (semantics) that Ausm: explanations could-not be expected for every case rv-'LvL Fuidhermore, it was considered that, normally, it would ’ - T meta of effort to try to solve most of the sightings, a mF' action would benefit a training and educational program hmm).. pno writings of Charles Fort were referenced to show * NW 90306 Iha I u;;L7u o> things in the sky” had been recorded for hundreds of years, d appeared obvious that there was no supple explanation for a iiujority of the things seen. The presence of radar and astro- rwval specialists on Cho Panel pr»»v,-d of value al once jn their avu. rcco’nltion of y i^wmena related to tku.r Lc u k.. It was dial specialists in such additional fields as psychology’', ‘ auYdynamlcs, ornithology and military air operations • nsat. IA.UWI the ability of the Panel to recognize many more cate­ ; a Cm of labile-known phenomena. de 'fund concluded unanimously that there was no evlbnco of a direct threw I to national, security in the objects sighted. uwkwv of nFoo Fighters” were cited. These wore unexplained ; dm, co djitcd by aircraft pilots during World War II in both ;doip?ar wed Far East theaters of operation wherein ’’balls of lighu” 'a .by reir or with the aircraft and maneuver rapidly. They were 'vw Y-‘ bo electrostatic (similar to St. Elmo’s fire) or elects.. • ban pEvomona or possibly light reflections from ice crystals . sve, hut their exact causo or nature was never defined. Bol; YwYvn and ~boon concerned in the investigation of • yv'vvmuna, but David T. Griggs (Professor of Geophysics at U■ tvrvr'vty of California at Los Angeles) is believed to have IE, most knowledgeable person on this subject. If the term \ y wp vuevrs" had been popular in 19^3 - 19^5, these objects would Q NW 90306 Dcidd:34714841 Page 56 Lwc r,o kbclcx'u It uas interesting that in al least two , • rm trat tint the object sighted was categorized by Robertson adj as probably “boo Fi^htors”, to dale unexplained but not they were not hppy thus to (’im;u;c who sightings by ' w‘!llp then nswos. It was their feeling that those phenomena are . f ! yard the domain of present knowledge of physical sciences, however. an; the Panel’s opinion that some of the Air Force concern aw ilbO.’;: (notwithstanding Air Defense' Command anxiety over fast ■ iBooks) was probably caused by public pressure. The result Irby is that the Air-Force has. instituted a fine channel for receiving reports of nearly anything anyone sees in the sky and fakir. Io understand. This has been particularly encouraged in popu- ku a:'lidos on this and other subjects, such as space travel and iow' fiction. The result is the mass receipt of low-grade reports l-nd to overload channels of communication with material quite . La hostile objects that might some day appear. The lluwl g"v willy that tills mass of poor-quality reports containing 1 if any, scientific data was of no value. Quite the opposuv, , wv noenbly dangerous in having a military service foster public .'wen ’’nocturnal meandering lights”. The implication being, * 1 on interested agency was military, that these objects were m di he. potential direct threats to national security. Ac~.rd- . , the - nod for deemphasization made itself apparent. Cements ( educational program are en'u.orated below. NW 90306 Dadd:34714841 1 the opinion of Ik. Robertson Inal the "saucer” problem kb ink to be dlffo'ob in nature Iron the dcMctlun and . ■' '*0 k ■potion of Cancan ¥-1 and ¥-2 juidue missiles prior to their ”kk,ial use M World Br li. In this 1943-19^ intelligence v ■•a 11 or (fgOSSik), there was excellent Intelligence: and by June IkR k.?.-^ was material evidence of the existence of "hardware" ■ 'kkocl fan clashed vehicles in Sweden. This evidence gave the o- . Rak.kg teem a basts upon which to operate. The absence of any k^eheark resulting from unexplained U.E.O. sightings lends a "will.- *k Re wry” nature to the ATTO problem. The results of their investi- p.:p k date, strongly indicate that no evidence of hostile act is* denpor exists. Furthermore, the current reporting system would . ewe 1 like value in the ease of detection of enemy attack by copven- < ;Ml aircraft or guided missiles; under such conditions ’’hardware” m available almost at once. ' k wresting to note that none of the members cf the t kkh to accept that this earth might be visited by exii x- ‘ - kfi intelligent beings of some sort, some day. Wat they did i 'kk was any evidence that related the objects sighted to space kra, Mr. j, in Ms presentation, showed how he had elk­ a. M -k the know and probable causes of sightings leaving lux hvmkdar’ as the only one remaining in many eases. iM'v.imd as an aeronautical engineer and technical intelligence ■ - 10 - NW 90306 Dackf34714841 Page 58 cbbm bi eject ufTloorj blbtbOK for 35 months) could not be o . O' I However, the Paxil could not accept any of the cases' If hex because they were raw, luievaluatcd reports. Tx-roslrial explanations of Iha s.i^h^iny; worn raiyxstcd .in some raxe; and hi others the time of sighting was so shore as to cause suspicion of visual impressions* It was noted by Dr. Goudsmit and a b an Ltd extraterrestrial, artifacts, if they did exist, are no - ’.v farn^ rather, they are in the realm of natural phenomena '•tri-'f; to seimtific study, just as cosmic rays were at the time discovery 20 to 30 years ago. This was an attitude in a 1 c t'.\bu>on did not concur, as he felt that such artifacts world be of immediate and great concern not only to the U. S. but 4 ' ab countries, (nothing like a common throat to unite peoples 0 Dr. ruled that present astronomical knowledge of the solar ' o,b\- o.t co the existence of intelligent beings (as wo know the "wf ci; xbro than on the earth extremely uMftely, and the ' thair attention by any controllable means cont.'wb one x'-nbinoat of the earth quite preposterous. ',Mb4'—JbAF^ i -asc was considered si^iifLeant because of the excellent ' rd ry evidence in the form of Kotocbrore motion picture films . „ batons). The Panel studied these films, the case history , d.y byK. nuutation, and received a briefing by representatives of b b thbo Interpretation Laboratory on their analysis of the ( b had expended (at Air Force request) apyrovimad 1 y NW 90306 Dcidd:34714841 Page 59 9 Ind ' , ' ’ pvP,;.sPaP and suli-profosslonal limo in the prey 1 । aC gowP plots of individual frames of Luc film, eiuw- dp apparent and relative moll on of objects and variation in their jd 'uPnwty* XL was the opinion of the P.TJl. i^pr^wntatives ■ objects sighted wore not birds, balloons or aircraft, were "fa" -a; floc Lions because there was no blinking while passing ' sop <■>;" arc” and were, therefore, "self-luminous”. Plots cP a hPion in light intensity of the objects were dis- ■.cl. the Panel boxbers wore impressed by the evident ■ '•'tulws, .industry and extent of cuorl of the P.I.L. team, they - ; uw. ?erpt the conclusions reached. Some of the reasons for is follows: • a. A semi-spherical object can readily produce a reflection of sunlight without "blinking” through 60° of are travel, m ilkuy no data was available on th© “albedo” of birds or jVLpiitleae balloons in bright sunlight, the apparent • hc , slices end brightnesses of the objects were : < . .bred strongly to suggest birds, particularly after in ■ Oriel viewed a short film showing high reflectivity in bright sunlight. c. P.P.U description of the objects sighted as “circular, shurhite’’ in color would be expected in cases of specular reflections of sunlight from convex surfaces where brilliance of Vue reflection would obscure other pur tiers 1cuss e bU.icVcd to h«vo men roll actions. o. a ues KO valid rmam lor Uc aUmml to relate the objects 'lamalion Gigbiip to Umo in Groat talln night­ ? V have beca dm to M cn.d ritandi?,/ Ln. their a 1 ’the objects Ln the Croat Falls GliJnl/t arc "v.ipdoi of being; reflections of aircraft kn-wn to duo area. ' < o ! ch.iijv In the Tr< Kenton limits use too ycat • r jo'-l nr-? of Uki P.T.b. hypoUuu; i s that the apparent . e 1 hmrynjy ihioruily of the lights indicated extremely . small orbital paths. , .lad of quHhncu of investigators by those familiar sin rejects and cry]anaticQis. ■ c^'y ■ , Light inunsivy of objects wdu from duplicate m h < f a ou.L.iaal film. The alyinl film was noted to " 1 yhtor boeVround (affoctry relative brightness , \ c PnM no nwy cxplanaUofi for those clusters. IL j UmL ft Lmu mc trial artifacts wore to bo ob,.- or ! ’ m y -.hat Im/v M>nld K soon first near foreign arcus “ m toe ophiMn Lha^ the present AT] C program to m fop Lhc.xpnnivc 3f nn. stereo eaiMM In the heads of various . m , I o uU'T tenor operators would probably produce little valu- 1 a U.i'.C.'s. however, was recognised that , • i Land allay public concern in tho subject until . . 1 ^mmm-m taken effect. It wan believed that pro­ ' 1 m a vms pertly the result of public pressure aha the poor .results of the year-long Project I m 01 Ct-iMM'; m.mu I MiMUitallon watch (two framer of ■ > king dldinyimhable), a widespread program sir­ . n c ! be v’wcdol to yield much direct data of ucue. • m mImR u discussion of a possible ”w-;y pa m , ■ and by wcdo-rnglo Mureras (Page). 1 and Dr. pointed cut Unit at present a considerable Tract o:' b. has been for h.a< yoars-under surveillance ' b.U. du sovaral meteor and aurora observing programs as •bit as sky capping programs al who various loeabbms listed below. Illi' ’ u do attention of these astronomers Is luydy directed • sk’it:?:c; .v.ihu* Ursa mri don Lilli cd objects, no case of ar.y I",, n • D.mLI b cd object is known to Dr. Daye or Dr.^^ Such u b'gd \ roll nori eovlaiidy bo reported if found on patrol plates., ' oiled wb.rc an as10000.0,or refused to interrupt his order to phol ojrryh an alloyed sighting in a different . ' Tlrlc loci Dr. to say that, a program of 1 be an adjunct of planned astronomical programs, little e 1 ueuid b involved and that the trained astronomical personnel oLub\n'ph a sighting of an unidentified object. . ! o of some of these programs and their directors are believed to be: . o'C Jiiivcniiv, Cambridge and dew Mexico (meteor pairolK- f i nan ' 5 A b^crVdtoryj University of Chicago and Fort'Davis, Texas bn '"’bl m\yn;tib)—biiid (auroras), Kuiper (asteroid"), • bayor (wide angle camera). . b of Alaska, Fairbanks (surorac)—llvey . . Chiwtory, HLlwa (inhwsj-bbrr.n '. ■ tvi'v.ibry, California (sky map)—Minkowski . uroilwy, California (sky op)-Shar.c fob nobw'ww- Page 65 / ianc!. Ihas no ,5nrcrxHaQiit-cpc^ ‘ i m m mw/ht.- sky patrol in worthwhile at the present time, and utw too oncLunmgcmoril of am tour astronomers to undertake such a right have'Um adverse effect of ov.'r-o;«;k'.-;i?in2 "flying in the public mud« however, the issue of radar scope 1 r peculiar radar celiacs would serve several pur- ■ .; Luo Udi^r understanding of radar intoi’farena' as ■ c . metorlsoic problem of radar operation wherein the pulse > ' ? \ a a4i muddldy the sane frequency) from station k may be . yd-b up m vie screen of slation B and show as a hly-spccd track • ..ci'io;; u’ dots was rucoyizcd to have probably caused a number of ■ ' ’ 0. "eporis, 'fills problem was underlined by information received • : e com'vm hi solving this prblis of signal identification., s m use of very high-speed aircraft or guided missiles • i . i.ilrm* believed that one answer to this proob 1 Mopplcr ihmr" in the receiving circuit. Dr, V J I prolden nifit be bottur solved by tho use at a jitver” wherein tho operator receiving "very fast tract ” . ' dm ..mlr it J000- 10,000 m.p.h.) would operate a circuit walk ■ station’s pulse; frequency rate. If tho m yimi ’ . J serosa had been caused by mutual interference with . m track would now show itself at a different ,a NW 90306 Dcudd:34714841 Page 66 uc. ' cc' :'''r‘?en» ^'" ^ sti.il appeared at all. ‘ 'Ils cmh a ^dmicH solution was simpler and would cost much less than a "by uber * Uro wpurhJ eases wore examined: one at Palomr Mountain, California, v t .lu'F .i',19, waun cosmic ray conn tews wont "off scale for a few seconds”, . a "V" of Hying saucers was observed visually; ^*>1 Us, a , ( u.noc'v.xiom by the "Los Alamos bird Watchers Association" from . . mb i-yv l..a January 1951, when cosmic ray coincidence counters behaved GuxuU diagrams and records were available for the latter, and ' y.m; a^c quickly to point out that the recorded data were undoubtedly due to instrumental effects that would have boon recognized ’ ; s such by more experienced observers. - The Implication that radioactive effects wore correlated with flying objects in these two casus was, therefore, rejected by the Panel . 1 . EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM 'TTMopt op a braid educational inavaa into^ratin;; : ' Tap. yj concerned agencies was that it should have two major : mummy; and "debunking". . umh.mg aim would result in proper recognition of unusuuliy . . . ; 'redo; 'bjwts (e.g., balloons, aircraft reflections) as well as u u m".mmra (meteors, fireballs, mirages, noctilucent clouded , , n radar recognition are concerned. Thore would bo 19 - «ff«»«|^^ NW 90306 Dcidd:34714841 Page 67 W Ofc t . “ ’ b L L <• ^’■’h. . " location iron ckisled personnel to command and remmd . taint Ivo emphasis and decree of explanation of different programs wk correspond to tho categories of duty (e.g., radar operators! ykh; control toiler operators; Ground Observer Corps personnel; and r'ru. ys aru enlisted men in other categories.) This training should Marked reduction in reports caused by misidontification > u r ; Jal confusion. X a boukid’ alia would result in reduction in public iiuerxh. , r.mcck* which today evokes a strong psychological reaction. I1 :7ekon could bo accompli shed by mass media such as television, vk a rukvrxs, and popular articles. Basis of such education would actual case histories which had been puzzling at first but later o^iiaM. As in tho case of conjuring tricks, there is much less a rkakou if tho “secret" is known. Such a program should tend to . whur luo current gullibility of the public and consequently their . > ng t imiuy to clever hostile propaganda. The Panel noted that tho 1 of Russian propaganda based on a subject with so many v. u gm, kb Jitios for exploitation might indicate a passible hunker kora of tho Panel had various suggestions related to the plan­ . v-n v1 k an educational program. It was felt strongly that familiar with mass psychology should advise on the vatu co _ - X -k-v' k tho program. In this connection, Dr. Hadley Cantril k wk.x< kwersity) was suggested. Cantril authored "Invasion from - 20 - NW 90306 Dockt34714841 Page 68 v-d' 4w-'yi in the psychology of panic, written about the famous vi'-tha ^Lo broadcast in 1938) and has since performed advanced laboratory stu Kes in the field of perception. The names of Don Marquis dmtvnvyty »f Michigan) and Loo Boston wore mentioned aa possibly .('U;hif as consultant psychologists. Also, someone familiar with c .cations techniques, perhaps an advertising expert, would be ' L . Idlir Godfrey was mentioned as possibly a valuable charnel ' ' . 11 'l l " t O ^ ^ ll vi 011 a~ 1^ ^ m^ i j s / d V1CI x O^V C I* 0t C O >l *^*cX a. IV Ot 0 V^ O<1^ S . lil^ . I^l I* ^* ^^s 11^ , upr 'Kb die U. S. Navy (ONR) Special Devices Center, Sands Point, L. I., v muduuLv valuable organization to assist in such an educational p'm.'Vu the Leaching techniques used, by this agency for aircraft u.ratification during the past war was cited as an example of a similar - Perm task* The Jam Handy C o. w hich m ade W orld W ar II training "-.1^ (mb i on picture and slide strips) was also suggested, as well as ’''vuy^ Inc. animated cartoons. Dr, suggested that the * - cK renamer!>vn tiio 0*. S. imi 1 w 12. o XaH ^ o o i/iv LiAH 2* - "U spread the gospel”* It was believed that business 'ngb schooKj colleges, and television stations would all ba . ! tv .uwpvrnto in the showing of docuaintary typo motion pictures , eya-ea in an interesting manner. The use of true cases showing • . « its "yylery” and then the Mexplanation” would, be forceful. 1 y K a and execute such a program, the Panel believed was no The current investigatory group at ATIC would, of necessity lw cKr.ely integrated for support with respect to not only the NW 9u3iH . Dockl34714841 Page 69 - 'vises but the current ones. Recent cases are probably much i*n>? svwcoptible to explanation than older ones; first, because of ATIC’s experience and, secondly, their knowledge of most plausible ' xcplanations. The Panel believed that some expansion of the ATIC effort would certainly be required to support such a program* It was believed ' h,u?v'npnate to state exactly how large a Table of Organization would rwpnrod, Captain Kuppelt of ATIC unofficially proposed, for purposes vrly-in(< and evaluating reports! ' a* An analysts* panel of four officers . A Faw officer investigators A oritfing officer ' y A . d. An ADC liaison officer < ? y e. A weather and balloon data officer ■ f. An astronomical consultant A , g« A group Leader, with administrative assistant, file clerks and stenographers. ■ b hr y"?oposal met with generally favorable comment. The Panel A ov/cd shat 5 with ATIC’s support, the educational program of “train­ ; -w! Awbunklng** outlined above might bo required for a minimum of dfvi ana-half to two years* At the end of this time, the dangers r tdeh to “flying saucers” should have been greatly reduced if not . . • 'vuai.d* Cooperation from other military services and agencies . ruumrd (e,gM Federal Civil Defense Administration) would be a . wv-wsxy. In investigating significant cases (such as the Tremonton, * rw .o'tisqd, controlled experiments might be required. An « NW 90306 Dccki 34714841 Page 70 ; alJgupuirg of "pillow balloons” at different distances > wadhur conditions at the site. a • the help of one or two psychologists and welters and a subcontractor produce training films would bo necessary In addition. The Panel • /hhvrcd Ltd ATIC’s exports, temporarily expanded ar. necessary, most useful in implementing any action taken as a result of ' . ^/cuwwdaLions. Experience and records in ATIC would be of vein*- 1 Uu; public educational and service training progi'am envisaged* a .oisnson at, least was of the opinion that after public gullibility ’ a and the service organizations, such as ADC, had been trained - a.lfj is? the m<»rc readily explained spurious sightings, there would ; Lj.P1 be a rule for a very modest-sized ATIC section to cope with the ■ st.Pxiwi of items of possible scientific intelligence value. This y should concentrate on energetically following up (perhaps on .ahWcv of qualified Air Force Scientific Advisory Board members) . ‘ a f sour which secmod to indicate, the evidence of unconventional 1 V'lPP--, deports of such artifacts would be expected to 1 from Western outposts in far closer proximity to the tLu’aJa than bibbuok, Texas! . ■ ' w u •dVESTPATTLl GROUPS lock cognizance of the existence of such groups as the . . dury Saucer Investigators” (Los Angeles) and the "Aerial arch Organization (Wisconsin)”. It was believed that . :y.u rations should be watched because of their potentially . . 23 - • NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 71 . ' I ln?h;J!i2n!ff£^ Johns Hopkins University NW 90306 Dodd:34714841 Page 74 4 . > . TAB B SCIENTIFIC ADVISOR! PANEL ON .. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS .14 - 17 January 1953 C TiC TC ?: HO O TE D L Sovonty-five case histories of sightings 1951 - 1952 (selected by ATIC as those best documented). ’ AT3C Status and Progress Reports of Project GRUDGE and Project BLUE BOOK (code names for ATIC study of subject). > Progress^Roports of Project STORK (contract work supporting ATIC). . 4. Summary Report of Sightings at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico. 5. Report of USAF Research Center, Cambridge, Mass., Investigation of ••Green Fireball” Phenomena (Project TWINKLE). 6. Investigation of U.F.O.’s Proposed by Kirtland Air Force Base (Project POUNCE). Outline of 7. Motion Picture Films of sightings at Tremonton, Utah, 2 July 1952 and Great Falls, Montana, August 1950. 8. Summary Report of 89 selected cases of sightings of various . categories (Formations, Blinking Lights, Hovering, etc.), ’ CT of runnel: “How to'Make a FL!0BRPTM, prepared at ATIC. 10. Chart Showing Plot of Geographic Location of Unexplained fightings in the United States during 1952. ’ * ICT Chart Showing Balloon Launching Sites in the United States. ACT Charts Showing Selected Actual Balloon Flight Paths and Relation to Reported Sightings. ‘ ’ . Charts Showing Frequency of Reports of Sightings, 1948 - 1952., 14. Charts Showing Categories of Explanations of Sightings. Kodachrome Transparencies of Polyethylene Film Balloons in Bright umB.^ht Showing High Reflectivity. CT;f^ ‘ NW 90306 Dackt34714841 Page 75 •16, Motion picture of seagulls in bright sunlight showing high reflectivity 1?. Intelligence Reports Relating to U.S.S.R. Interest in U. S. Sightings* 18. Samples of Official USAF Reporting Forms and Copies of Pertinent Air Force, Army and Navy Orders Relating to Subject, 19♦ Sample Polyethylene "Pillow” Balloon (5^ inches square). 20. “Variations in Radar Coverage”, JANP 101 (Manual illustrating unusual operating characteristics of Service radar), - 21. Miscellaneous official letters and foreign intelligence reports ' dealing with subject," 22. Copies of popular published works dealing with subject (articles in periodicals, newspaper clippings and books). . Dcidd:34714841 Page 76 ^W 90306 joc c .^,'14841 H ^y1? 78 S W 90306 joc c j.1/14841 pjg^- 79 S W 9UjU6 jol c .^,'14841 H c kie- 8u S W ^08 08 84714841 81 S W 9u-iU8 Jon o ji'i;'14841 H’^go 82 S W 90 JUG 14841 oj S W 'jijjUb jac a j4714841 Pane 84 S W 9u-iijb jon c 54/14841 Pane 85